Cannot read HDD

[hogie]

hi all. can anyone help me i have only a 3gb hard drive in my ibm computer and im trying to put a 40gb hard drive in it but it is not reading it ,is there somrthing i have to do in the bios so my computer will read it. the jumpers on the hard drive are ok.and i took out the battery for 10 min and put it back in and still it is not reading it,thank you

[PrntRhd]

I split this into it's own thread from the sticky post where you put it.

[hogie]

ok.. n1. i really hope there is someone out there that can help me.

[Paul Komski]

but it is not reading it
hogie - are you adding this drive as a slave or replacing the existing 3gig drive? Are the drives PATA or SATA and do they appear in the BIOS? Finally, which version of Windows?

It must be jumpered properly and be initialised (partitioned and formatted) so if it is an additional drive and you are running an NT-based OS check Disk Management (diskmgmt.msc in the run box) where it may show-up with unallocated space and hence no drive letters (yet).

[hogie]

hi paul. im replacing the existing 3gig drive.i dont know if there are PATA or SATA, the hard drive is maxtor d540x-4k and i want to put windows xp home edition on it.the jumpers are set right.. is not showing up on my computer.when i turn on my computer it saids that 1764 changes had been made.i think i have to let the computer know that i have put a new hard drive in i just dont know how. im very new to this so any help will be good.(tyvm)

[Fruss Tray Ted]

3 gig hard drive? :eek:

What are your complete system specs? Something that came with a small HDD such as that may have BIOS issues that will need to be addressed prior to installing the new drive. Also we'd need to know if installing XP is possible as well.

[Paul Komski]

If you want to clean install WinXP to the new drive then, for the time being, have only the new drive attached as lone master and then boot to the WinXP installation CD to initiate an install. A BIOS issue is possible but unlikely with a 40gig drive, since most systems have supported 80gig drives and smaller for some time now.

FTT is on the money about XP needing to have certain minima for the system to function so how much RAM and CPU speed, in particular, does your system have. And what version of Windows is currently running.

[hogie]

i have only the new drive in my computer, i took out the 3gb, but the 40 gb is not reconised by my computer.i tryed maxtor cd to right the drive to zero but it said no device found.i have 128 of ram.. i cant do a clean install WinXP because the drive it is not found.do i have to let my computer know that i put a new hard drive in.do i have to do something in the bios setting so it can read it..

[Fruss Tray Ted]

Maybe you need a hearing aide:

What are your complete system specs? Or at least, the model and make of computer??? ;)

I'm of the thought your system is just too damned old! It may be a jumper problem but I doubt it. It is more likely a BIOS issue in it's ability to see a drive any bigger than 6 gigs. You could use softwares to overcome this or partitioning with hardware card prior to reinstalling into your system BUT you will never meet the minimum requirements of XP to be able to install it.

[hogie]

sorry fruss.my computer processor-celeron(tm)/processor speed-466mhz/l2 cache size 128kb/cache state-enabled with no ecc/system memory 128mb/memory type-non ecc/active-intel1810(tm) graphics chip ac/viedo-audio support-enabled/diskette drive a:1.44mb 3.5/ide hard disk drive 0-not installed/ide hard disk drive 1-not installed/ide cd rom drive 2-installed/ide hard disk drive 3-not installed,,thats whats the system summary.and this is what is in product data/machine type model-628816g/flash eeprom revision level-nxkt24auk/boot block revision level-nx24a/system board identifier-g2m7p835sdo/system serial number-552785d/ i hope this helps

[hogie]

i had an 8gb hard drive in it when i got the pc but that hard drive packet in,so i got a 3gb hard drive,and it works fine but not enough memory.but when i put in the 40gb hard drive i get this massage 1762 configuration change has occurred,,and ..162 configuration change has occurred

[Paul Komski]

These are apparently BIOS messages from an IBM (?Aptiva).

When hardware (particularly a HDD or CDROM) is changed the BIOS needs to be informed of the change; possibly there is an autodetect setting or similar which needs to be set/reset and the changes then saved before exiting the BIOS setup. In order for the BIOS to detect an IDE/ATAPI device it must also be jumpered correctly - so the jumpering needs also to be double-checked. Once you can get the new device detected in the BIOS setup you should be good to go. One unlikely cause could be a dying CMOS battery - such that it cannot retain any changed settings.

[hogie]

i double checked jumpers on hard drive and im sure there are set right.and i cant find any autodetect in bios this is what my bios setting are can you point me in the right place,,,system summary,,product data,,devices and i/o ports,,start options,,date and time,,system security,,advanced setup,,isa legacy resources,, power management,,

[Sylvander]

"i cant find any autodetect in bios...
System Summary...
ide hard disk drive 0-not installed
ide hard disk drive 1-not installed
ide cd rom drive 2-installed
ide hard disk drive 3-not installed"
Can you change ALL [drive settings, especially] "not installed" to "Auto"?
Possibly by using the up/down arrow keys on the keyboard to highlight, and then hit the "Page Down" key to step through the various options.
The "Auto" setting makes the BIOS "Dynamically Auto-Detect and Configure" the drive arrangements at EACH/EVERY Startup, so the drive parameters are always correct.

Who is the manufacturer of the HDD?
Is there a jumper location on the HDD for reducing the capacity that the BIOS sees?
When I used that on a Maxtor HDD the PC wouldn't boot.
With Maxtor HDD's [if you want to use a "Dynamic Drive Overlay" (DDO) to overcome the BIOS limitation] it is possible to use the "MaxBlast" program to tell the HDD to misreport its capacity so that it matches the capacity that the BIOS can handle.
The BIOS is then happy with the HDD, and MaxBlast then auto-installs a DDO and the BIOS can then address the full capacity of the HDD.

But it's much better to fit a[n] [inexpensive] PCI [to IDE] controller card.
That would handle practically ANY size of HDD, and almost certainly work at a faster speed than the mobo [ATA133?], so if your HDD is of that speed you see an improvement.

[Paul Komski]

Until the drive is given some recognition in the BIOS then a BIOS limitation doesn't even come into play. I'm more and more wondering if this Maxtor (assuming connections jumpers and cables are OK) is faulty and would try it in another PC to confirm this.

[Fruss Tray Ted]

This pc should have no problem seeing a 40 gig drive

Go into BIOS and find this line (stolen from Sylvander ;))

ide hard disk drive 0-

Try altering it's setting to auto. Press enter key, press it a second time to activate autodetect. If it sees the drive it will list the platters and sectors etc.

Escape to main menu, press F10 to save and exit BIOS

If the drive is any good and the jumpers are se to master or cable select, it should be good to go from here.

[hogie]

hello again fruss. ty for leting me know that my computer can take 40gb happy to here that:D.. i did everything you said i went into my bios and went to ide hard disk drive 0 , press enter:mad: and it said not installed so i press enter and the same thing:eek: ,,i say i got done with the hard drive:( .iv tryed everything and no sign of my computer picking up my hard drive,i think the hard drive is just not going to work:mad: ,,ty all for your time;) ..i think it time to move on,:( ,