Norton System Works 2001

[wiltrot]

I have Norton SystemWorks 2001 program (origional not a copy) I would like
to give away to anyone who would like to have it. Nothing wrong with it, just causing me some problems a couple of times which where an
inconvenience. I'm hesitant now with using third party utilities. If you would like it, e-mail me your address and I will mail it to you. Check my
profile for my e-mail address. Hate to see it go to waste.

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What's up with that?

[skhips]

I find the program excellent apart from Crash guard which has gave me trouble, if this is the same with you just dont install this component.

Very Generous of you, must get paid to much.

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[sea69]

too late...........

tried to warn you that we don't offer PAID for programs here to be passed around... (against site policy) wanted you to be able to edit...

I emailed you... but ........not in time I guess.

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[This message has been edited by sea69 (edited 07-28-2001).]

[wiltrot]

This program was paid for and is the origional, didn't even think it to be
against Forum policy to give it away. Sorry, I'm taking back the offer.

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What's up with that?

[skhips]

Sea totally understand where youre coming from ref Copys but this gent was offering an original surely this is ok.

With respect...

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[bassvax]

wiltrot I think 2001 is one of the best Norton products out there. Is there something specific we can help you with on it? I think the Clean Sweep function is not very good at monitoring installs though. I use clean sweep to remove programs but I do not have it run in the background. Actually, the only part running in the background is the antivirus portion. The Disk Doctor and Speed Disk functions are excellent. I use the Registry and other programs (Orphan file finder, Redundant DLL cehcker, Registry sweep, etc.) as well on ocassion.

skhips I believe Symantec realized the horibbleness of CrashGuard and the removed it from the SystemWorks 2001 bundle.

I don't believe (can't speak for them though) Pete, Charles or even Symantec would have a problem with the transfer as long as you follow the instructions in the EULA about completely removing it from your system and the registration changes with Symantec are completed.

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[sea69]

Originally posted by skhips:
Sea totally understand where youre coming from ref Copys but this gent was offering an original surely this is ok.

With respect...

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personally, I do not have a problem with it, but..........if you wrote that program and had it for sale, would you want someone who bought one copy to distribute it for free to everyone on the internet??

you are right he purchased the right to use it, but not to distibute it.

what do you think microshaft is all worried about with this new .net?

they don't want us to even have programs on our computers at all, just to use any terminal and pay to connect to their servers on a pay per use schedule.

It is against this sites policy to post copyrighted materials for distribution, weather we like it or not, that's the way it is.

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[Paleo Pete]

Touchy subject...

As long is this is the original CD, EULA provisions are met, and it is completely removed from the person's system, I don't have a problem with it. Check the EULA, it might have something in there prohibiting transfer of any kind. I don't know, since I haven't used it. Check the EULA closely and be sure.

If this concerned a copy of the program, of course it would definitely be a problem, but that's a different story. Since this is the original, I don't see any reason it should be a big problem. And Sea, only one copy was offered, the original, and it's not being distributed free to everyone on the Internet...

The issues I am concerned about as far as forum policy goes, is posting links to warez/cracks sites, offering pirated software, and assisting individuals with bypassing licensing/registration or copy protection. I do not want the forums to develop a reputation for indulging in that sort of conduct.

Then again, I don't think it would be a good idea for the forums to turn into a "swap meet" either...

As a side note, I don't know of any programs that currently prohibit giving software away, or reselling it after use, but if you take a look at a post a few months ago concerning the UCITA, in PC World, it would prevent this. Just one reason to keep up with what's happening in your state, and contact your congressmen and let them know you don't like it. The UCITA is already in effect in several states, Maryland and Virginia I think, among them. It also would not allow negative comments concerning the software such as comments above about it causing problems, or not being a good program.

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[bassvax]

You beat me to it Pete http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/smile.gif

I was just about to announce my status as "backpeddler of the day" by saying that after contemplating Sea's remarks the best policy to follow would be, that via this forum, a default answer of "No, not here".
Thus eliminating any question of this site's involvement. Coolio, Sea http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Edit: My original offer to help with any problems concerning this software still stands though http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/smile.gif

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[This message has been edited by bassvax (edited 07-28-2001).]

[sea69]

I see no reason for this to be an issue, however.....


Originally posted by bassvax:
remarks the best policy to follow would be, that via this forum, a default answer of "No, not here".
Thus eliminating any question of this site's involvement. http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

From my experience on this forum that was the "default" answer.

Paleo Pete
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OK, so some of our newer participants will know, the "problem" I have with topics of this type is copyright issues. I'm sure it's entirely possible that in most cases, it's a simple and straightforward situation where the person is just trying to make a backup copy for emergencies, such as if the original CD was left in a car during summer and warped...
However...

How do we know this? How do we have any assurance it's not someone trying to make 100 copies to sell at a flea market or something of that nature, or multiple copies to give to friends? We don't.

That's the reason I usually shy away from helping people make copies of registered software. It's usually acceptible to make ONE backup copy for your own use, and is actually a good idea. Make a backup, use it instead of the original, and store the original in a safe place. But since this is the internet, we have no way of knowing if any individual is actually on the level. (No accusations intended, j-sanborn)

That's why I'm so picky about the questions about copying software. We have no way of knowing if we're not actually helping someone pirate multiple copies of the OS...so I figure it's best to leave it alone.


just one example.... there are many more but all tend to be on the side of not doing this...sorry if I was out of line.

again personally to me, I don't really care if anyone pays/shares/'lends' or GIVES others apps and programs, just thought it was frowned upon here.

I have copies of over 200 programs and apps (original) that I could offer to give away.. but so does everyone else... where would that lead??

are we sure we want to set a precedent ?

(I always wanted to say that..)

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[This message has been edited by sea69 (edited 07-28-2001).]

[iisbob]

I have copies of over 200 programs and apps (original) that I could offer to give away.. but so does everyone else... where would that lead??


Umm, can we say Napster?! http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/tongue.gif or how 'bout peer-to-peer http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/eek.gif



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[sea69]

wasn't counting Napster.... 951 mp3's

they are mine, but not (I didn't pay for them)

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[This message has been edited by sea69 (edited 07-28-2001).]

[BigBlue66]

Howdy,

I too, have Norton SystemWorks 2001 and would be happy to help in any way I can.

I have used Norton for longer than I can remember and the only thing I can say about it is that caution must be used with some its more robust functions.

Cheers,

Big Blue 66


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Woe is me.

[wiltrot]

WOW! I am really sorry for causing all this controversy. I'm really new
at all this. Bought my first computer a little over a year ago (6/30/00).
Bought PC for Dummies a few months before the purchase. But prior to that
I didn't know how to turn on a computer. And the Internet the same just
a year old. So forgive me. Now as for Norton, there is realy nothing I need
to understand about it. I bought it back in April I think and it works find. I'm just picky, I want everything to work perfect. It didn't cause a
major problem I'm just picky. So when I don't like it, when in doubt REFORMAT. Believe me, poeple around here make fun of me. But I'm learning, so reformatting doesn't happen often it's been at least two weeks since the last one. I'm not going to use third party utilities any more. I've
come to a place were I don't want to depend on them any more. So when I
saw people posting for wear abouts (utilities) I say, you can have mine.

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What's up with that?

[sea69]

reformat every 2 weeks ??


wow, my machines one year "birthday" is tomorrow and I have yet to reformat !

(think I should open the case and clean out the drudges??)

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[This message has been edited by sea69 (edited 07-29-2001).]

[ranchdog]

Gentlemen when you make as many MAJOR mistakes as I do.... You re-format every morning while eating breakfast. Hehehe. The KISS rule does apply in my case. An excess of Third-Party programs fail to help me keep it simple, stooopid.

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......Indecision may or may not be my problem......

[biggmc01]

This is my first post ever!!! I have been registered for a few days now but have been trying to catch up on all the Admin. threads and the FAC's.
I personally hate all Norton's products as I feel they try to take control of my system over me. They are also almost impossible to uninstall. I have really enjoyed what I have seen on the site so far and think that Charles and Pete, as well as the other regs are doing a great job with this fantastic site!

I think that if a person buys a piece of software and doesn't want it anymore then they should be able to give or sell it to who they want. As long as they have no use of it anymore! It is the same as selling a car under waranty, it can be transferred to the next owner.

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[iisbob]

Welcome to the PCguide forum biggmcO1, while i don't have any experiance wiht other Norton products; i do have extensive experiance with their ( and other ) anti-virus program. I will say, bar none, that Norton's is by far the best. and the fact that it tightly intergrates itself with MS code is what makes it so effective-as a matter of fact we removed all mcafee, and other products from our company recently just to only run Norton anti-virus. In fact i trust it to my own system(s) at home and have seen it first hand defeat virii that mcafee and PC-cillian, among others, let pass right on through-some, like Anti-vir ( a free anti-virus program ) didn't even recognize the virii! http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/eek.gif

personally i'm also a clean system tray freak, http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif in my opinion if it aint running on purpose, it aint got no business in my sys-tray! http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/mad.gif

The most apealing feature of Norton is it's most effective email anti-virus subset; while it does run in the background, it does not consume a great deal of resources and it only invokes upon your email download. Another excellant attribute is it's ability to intergrate into Download Accelerator Plus, so that once i've downloaded an app; it automatically invokes and scans my downloaded file-saving mew several headaches over the years! http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/wink.gif

Having seen the Mca-crap installed as default options on too many systems, and struggling to remove it from the systems without having to reformat and reinstall windows, i can tell you for a fact i'd rather deal with Norton anyday! http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/eek.gif

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