XP specific site?

[ErnieK]

Over the past couple of weeks there has been an increasing number of XP questions, and they will become even more prevelant in the weeks to come. I cannot pretend to have an indication of the work all of you put into keeping the site upto its consistant high standard, but would it be possible to fit in a forum specific to XP?
No matter what the general opinion of XP is at the moment, it will be the OS of the future (at least for the next 3 years in one version or another) unless Linux becomes more user friendly.

Also if any one is operating Win3\3.1\3.11 - DOS - or 95 go get all your patches\updates before the end of the year as MS is stopping ALL support for them and NO security patches etc will be availble. The support for '98 will stop in June 2002.

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[kenja]

"The support for '98 will stop in June 2002." I hadn't heard that. (An original thought here: ) Microsoft sux!

Looks (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycleconsumer.asp) like June 2003 is the cut-off date, but I can't figure out the asterisk.


[This message has been edited by kenja (edited 11-16-2001).]

[Jumby]

I'd like to see a WinXP Forum too. I think it's gonna be needed more and more...especially after Christmas. I realize there is an O.S. forum, but XP will be needed. (as I watch a Windows XP commercial)

[sea69]

anyway you look at it, we need to know that OS

whether we use it or not- to be able to fix others machines.. consider it a challenge.... personally I love it when M$ comes out with a new O$... I get allot of work.

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[YODA74]

This is interesting I know you have to go with the changes thats evident. but let me ask this what do you do when:say you by a new scanner and the system support is for say what ever processor you may have and ms windows say 98/98se/me are you pretty much stuck with a piece of hardware that is worthless after you have to change windows???

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[Ghost_Hacker]

say you by a new scanner and the system support is for say what ever processor you may have and ms windows say 98/98se/me are you pretty much stuck with a piece of hardware that is worthless after you have to change windows???


Yes, that why it pays to do your research first. http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

[YODA74]

well how do you do research IF you already have all the equiptment and know there saying that in another year or two my windows is not supported. there are no other options for windows so far it ME and XP that are the last here.so if i buy one for ME now then in say (hypithetcally)in two years ME is not supported i'm stuck with a working piece of hardware that is no good? About ready to EDITED make him look like a vanilla pop-cycle.

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[This message has been edited by Paleo Pete (edited 11-30-2001).]

[sea69]

I think what GH meant was that as our research has revealed thus far that support will no longer be available that we should all prepare for this by having all the things we might need in the future already downloaded and saved someplace.

I wonder how they get away with EVERYTHING.

I cannot get through on any M$ link today....was interested to see their explanation/excuse/B$ on this but the above link (or any other link to M$ cannot be reached by me right now)......

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[Ghost_Hacker]

If your buying new hardware, research that hardware first for OS support before you buy. Nothing new here.

If you already have hardware and are thinking of upgrading to a new OS than again research that new OS for hardware supported before you buy. Nothing new here.


As for MS support so what? I been working with MS products for years and this isn't the first time they have dropped support for an old OS. (folks still use Windows 3.11. Even though support for it from Microsoft and most companies vanished years ago.) Again nothing new here.

[Rick]

I don’t see where a Forum for XP exclusively is needed.
It like win.3.n 9n 2k nt is just another MS operating system.

Questions regarding XP should be asked in the Operating System forum.


In regard to MS dropping support for old version of it’s software.
That is old news.
I recall seeing an article in Pcmag some time ago that listed the dates .
At that time DOS/Win3.n support was already gone or so limited it was next to impossible to get on line.

Like Many other things in the computer industry We are being forced to upgrade or loose support.
Try finding an ADI (Autodesk interface) driver for today’s video cards .
You won’t find ANY anywhere.

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[sea69]

Hey

it may be "Old News", but I don't like the way/reason behind how they are doing it.

(not that they could care what I think, or any of the rest of us)

They are forcing us to buy their newer OS's by eliminating their previous ones and that is BS.

however..... even the US government seems to have NO real control over M$ biz practices.

am I the only one this morning that cannot connect to : http://www.microsoft.com/

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[Ghost_Hacker]

By the way Yoda, I have felt the "upgrade" pain too. I have PC Games not more than 2 years old that work fine with 98 but won't work at all with ME.

In this case I have been caught upgrading before any reports for gaming problems could have been reported. Because I've "been there ,done that" I didn't pay attention to the rule and it's bite me in the butt. http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

[sea69]

messed me up GH!

lol

can't edit above postie
http://www.microsoft.com/

can you connect to this site??

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[This message has been edited by sea69 (edited 11-29-2001).]

[Ghost_Hacker]

Sorry Sea, But you got me too... http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif


Anyway I was going to say .....It's always been a "point" of mine that "OS maddness" is one reason that the PC will die in a few years. Microsoft has for years keep the operating systems in the forefront as the most important software you own. But nobody buys a computer for the OS. They buy it to view photos or get email or play games. And those folks will get tried of always having to shell out serious coin every 2 to 4 years just to upgrade their PCs in order to view their digital photos or whatever. And with fast Internet connections the PC just isn't as needed as it once was. Set top boxes that only do one thing like view movies or play MP3s/games/apps. PDAs that download email and surf the web. These "boxes" should take off soon just because , like a VCR or DVD player,you don't have to upgrade them every time a new OS comes out. The OS just won't be important anymore.

[sea69]

sorry GH- we should all give each other at least 15 minutes to edit!!!!!!!!!!!!!

still didn't answer my query on if you can connect to M$

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[mjc]

hey sea,

It must be you...MS doesn't like you anymore, I even got through with error link (????)....... http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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[sea69]

thank you mjc

I was beginning to wonder............

heh

still cannot connect to any M$ site.

think they read my reviews of them and cut me off??


lol

you would be surprised at who's lookin here!

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[Ghost_Hacker]

Yeah, I got in too.

There must be an MS stoggie( did I spell that right???) in the forums and he's taking names http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

[This message has been edited by Ghost_Hacker (edited 11-29-2001).]

[YODA74]

Yup I get the point. it's just sad and agrivating but i guess like every thing else I'll just have to get over it.Yes SEA I can connect to that site just fine to? Just got back from the vet. or i would have mentioned it earlyer.Apparently the RAM didn't take well with the CAT seems to be processing ok now though. http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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[sea69]

found the problem: had M$ blocked from AdSubtract+-'

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[mjc]

Tried to block their site survey pop-up, maybe?

And maybe it really wasn't all that bad not getting there.... http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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[Rick]

Sea

Don’t get me wrong here.
I hate the way MS is doing it also.
I happen to have a copy of a program that requires ADI drivers and DOS
I moved away from MS dos a long time ago because of the ms support being dropped. (1995)
that date spelled the end of support for me and my software.

Living with an old version of a program that is supposed to have full 3d support by way of the ADI drivers and even with a new $300 video card all I can do is run it under SVGA .640x480
With a video card that supports 1600x1200 and a 19 inch monitor.

IF I were to up grade the software all I would need to do is spend $2300.00 for the latest version
Then build a dual p4.-2g to run it on and it would still be slower than my little Tbird 1.2 and DR Dos 7

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[ErnieK]

A wee tip for those with , or going to have a look at XP.
Friends son's sound card (5mths old) is not supported in XP. So after a wee bit of cursing I eventually put in the NT drivers for his sound card. BINGO! he can now get sound. I am leaving it for a couple of days to see if stable. There are restrictions on his card though. EAX is not supported, and as I know nothing about this file format there is nothing I can do about it. That is unless someone can explain what it is and how to get it into system. But at least he has working sound. It for reasons like this that I think an XP forum would be a good idea. http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/wink.gif

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[YODA74]

sounds good, but also sounds like more work for Pete and Charles,seems to me realistically that not a hole lot is known around here about XP and just adding another window or forum isn't really going to change that.I can't really see the difference posting your question in the appropriate forum whether it be trouble shooting or suggestions.Usually most have posted pretty much where they've pleased without care to which forum it is.
If your going to do that you might as well make one for CE-ME-NT-95-98-2000, list goes on? Been working fine for what over a year now.(IMHO)


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[Paul Komski]

I think there are enough forums to track already and also most new topics posted under OS/Software troubleshooting, etc. have the OS indicated in the Subject Line.

The only way to ensure the relevant OS was highlighted every time would be to add another column to the display (which would cramp-up space unless prefixed/suffixed to the Subject Line) and for there to be a ComboBox to select the relevant OS when Posting a New Topic.

I think this site works very well. "If the car is going well don't tinker with it"! LOL http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/wink.gif

Take Care
Paul

[Paleo Pete]

Thought I had responded to this one already...guess that's what I get for doing my own thinking http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Sounds like a good idea on the surface, but an XP specific forum would mean equal time to each other OS, meaning one for DOS, one for Win3.x, one for win95, 98, ME, NT, win2000...

We've discussed this in the past, and it's been pretty much decided to leave it mostly as is, the Operating System forum catches most OS specific questions, and most people do let us know what OS is involved. Occasionally we have to ask, but I think most of us are accustomed to that...

It's up to Charles in the end, wait and see what he decides to do, but I doubt if we'll see any OS specific forums.

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[ErnieK]

Well my post certainly got a couple of replies. And yes I see the drawbacks of having a specific site now. I sit here full of contrition for not thinking this through before posting, http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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[bassvax]

Here (http://www.cdrom-guide.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/022410.html) is site where a fellow has taken a great deal of time to work on a list of Helpies for the XP-minded souls...

Ernie...there is absolutely nothing wrong with asking a question or making a suggestion http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/smile.gif

I'm hearing of several instances of software not working with XP...I cant quote anything specific though.

I've got a copy of XP Corporate I'm supposed to be evaluating...when I get a decent pc to put it on I'll think about it...it ain'ta goin' on mine until I give it a work out.

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[Paleo Pete]

Ernie: Nothing at all wrong with posting this topic, it was a very good suggestion actually. Don't be upset about it. We also got some good opinions and a bit of useful info out of it.



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