View Full Version : why are 1333 fsb processors cheaper than 1066?
alternate
09-02-2007, 09:45 AM
$317 vs. $204, $1000 vs. $299 for e6700, e6750, x6800, e6850, in particular....?
the 1333 fsb processors are at least $100 cheaper; why? aren't they better?
odannyboy000
09-02-2007, 10:31 AM
Yes they are better. Did you not take marketing in high school or college?
George Hallam
09-02-2007, 03:11 PM
haha im sure everyone did ;)
alternate
09-02-2007, 06:12 PM
No, I never took marketing. BUt lately this site has been a course in geezerism or geezer-wannabeism.
classicsoftware
09-02-2007, 06:43 PM
Usually the reason older technology gets more expensive is supply and demand. Since there is no supply (not being made at all or less being made) those that still need them such as warranty repair people will have to pay more. Why are 80 GB drives about the same as 160 GB drives? The same reason.....
PrntRhd
09-02-2007, 07:06 PM
BUt lately this site has been a course in geezerism or geezer-wannabeism
I was wondering how long it would be until someone said that. Please don't blame the site for a comment by one poster.
George Hallam
09-02-2007, 10:32 PM
I was wondering how long it would be until someone said that. Please don't blame the site for a comment by one poster.
what "one poster" are you talking about
saphalline
09-02-2007, 11:23 PM
There are several reasons for this:
(1) - Production of the 1333 FSB CPU's has been ramped up by Intel, and production of the older 1066 FSB CPU's are being ramped down. Like classicsoftware said, SUPPLY & DEMAND.
(2) - Inventory for the older 1066 FSB CPU's was already bought and paid for at the higher prices. As much as any computer parts vendor needs to stay competitive, sometimes you just need to recoup your initial investment, or as much of it as possible.
(3) - Newegg in particular has some amazing people working in their pricing department. They're no fools! They know that anyone with an older chipset/mobo that only goes up to the 1066 FSB is limited in CPU choice. Based on upgrade paths, the slightly older or more useful (ie, OC'able) CPU's demand a price premium! And people pay it because they don't necessarily want to upgrade their mobo as well. Compatibility plays a large part in this particular aspect, as does the OC'ability of the lower FSB parts. Devious pricing scheme, but at the same time I have to respect their "skillz"! :p :D
alternate
09-03-2007, 02:20 AM
wow, that makes a lot of sense; but i also know that newegg has such a rate of sales that their stocks needs to be replenished monthly, so that a processor that sits in their inventory over three months (say a C2D 1066 processor packaged in may or june) doesn't exist; most likely, the older models were also purchased recently, so that if they were bought considerably more cheaply from the manufacturer, then a more expensive reselling price has to due with (3).
pricing isn't really determined by newegg, though, especially when the difference between a slightly older model is abour $100; they are sold by intel to newegg cheaply.
prnthd of course you're never a geezer! :)
OK, non-geezer list: prnthrhd, sapahalline, there are others...
geezer list: classic software, budfred, there are others...
geezer wanna be: you should know...
i'm not just referring to replies to this post; i should make it clear that this is just my percpetions...
saphalline
09-03-2007, 02:35 AM
#2 still plays an important role, despite the short time frames. Prices can change a lot in 1 month! What if Intel drops the wholsale price 3 days after sending a shipment to Newegg? :rolleyes: Or even worse, the CPU market suddenly changes due to a new chipset release (which comes from another manufacturer) on a different shipment schedule? This is what happened when NVidia-based 600i-series mobo's were shipped with updated chipset steppings for the new 1333 FSB.
A similar occurence happened when Intel dropped prices on the 400 FSB P4's once the 533 FSB P4's were in full production. The "old" P4's were losing favor. But Newegg's pricing team was quick as a whip, as usual! They realized that OC'ers were buying up the P4 1.8A in droves in order to take it to 2.4 GHz, essentially buying a P4 2.4B for 1/3 the cost! :eek: What happened to the price of the P4 1.8A? It went sky-high until Intel stopped production! Newegg made a pretty penny off those...
Or how about what happened to RAM prices when Taiwan got hit with that earthquake? Newegg suddenly had to increase RAM prices to reflect the disaster. Despite buying the RAM last week, let's say, at the old lower prices, Newegg had to jack up the price to keep from running out of stock too quickly (all RAM was stored in Taiwan :rolleyes: ) and partly to shore up for the increased RAM costs that lasted for 6 months afterwards.
#2 and #3 are separate ideas, but they go hand-in-hand, even on 1-month schedules. The consumer market determines reseller costs. The wholesale prices merely mark an investment level.
George Hallam
09-03-2007, 12:22 PM
also another thought could be that if they release new 1333Mhz FSB with high clock speeds at cheap prices they will be able to walk over AMD.
like DDR its is way more expensive than DDR2, unlimited want + limited recourses (DDR) = scarcity so more $$$$$$
saphalline
09-03-2007, 01:38 PM
Or maybe they really can see into the future and know something we don't! :eek:
Sometimes I wonder about that. That Newegg pricing team is a little too good...
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