Pc Shutting down during games etc

[Haze]

Ok my PC shuts down (turns off instantly) during doing things like games, my psu fan doesn't seem to be spinning/putting out as much air as it used to..

I also think it could be my gfx card, it didn't come with a fan (some pc guy isntalled it when pc was under warranty)

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System Information
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Time of this report: 9/23/2007, 12:32:54
Machine name: -------------------
Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.070227-2254)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Fujitsu Siemens
System Model: GA-8I848PM
BIOS: Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 1536MB RAM
Page File: 421MB used, 3013MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode


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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 6200
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 6200
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0221&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1
Display Memory: 256.0 MB
Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (75Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.8198 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 12/10/2005 03:06:00, 3955456 bytes


Please let me know what else I should show you, I've had to replace my psu before and didn't get the most expensive one possible, I think my current one only cost around £18.

Thanks, awaiting replys :)

[mjc]

Ok my PC shuts down (turns off instantly) during doing things like games...

Sounds like an over heating problem...


Please let me know what else I should show you, I've had to replace my psu before and didn't get the most expensive one possible, I think my current one only cost around £18.
Thanks, awaiting replys :)

Replace the PSU...this time with one that is a bit on the better side. You really do get what you pay for when it comes to power supplies. Cheap ones are not really all that cheap when you consider the life expectancy and replacement costs (and yes a power supply that truly fails, not just shuts down because it is over heating, can be very costly...it can take your whole computer out with it !!!! :eek: !!!!).

[Haze]

Btw to turn pc back on I have to switch the plug off at the wall, then back on and the pc restarts without me pressing the button.

[mjc]

Sounding more and more like a power supply that is about to release all its smoke and quit working...

[Spearball]

Welcome to the PC guide forums!!!

I agree with mjc. Post your temps here for us to take a look. You can download the program speed fan and check your temps with that. If those are fine its most likely your power supply thats going to fail on you very soon..... I suggest trying getting a replacement asap if overheating is not your case.

[Haze]

thanks for welcome!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v312/hazeismeyay/lolzhalp.jpg

[mjc]

I have no idea what Temp2 actually is, but 70 is way to high for it to be doing anything good to your machine...take the cover off the machine, place a small fan blowing into the machine and run it like that for a while...I'm guessing that the PSU was providing most/all the exhaust for the machine and it now isn't.

[saphalline]

:eek: Woah!

Temp2 would be your CPU. And that would also be your main problem. Temp1 is your internal system temp or chipset temp. That is not so high. HD0 is the onboard motor temp sensor of your primary HDD. That is very high.

It looks like the cooling scheme of your system is only half-baked. The airflow is poor in many areas while others are being adequately cooled. You say this system was once under warranty? Which company assembled it? Have you made any hardware changes since you bought it? Have you dusted it out recently?

[Haze]

It was a store bought (I know I know) pc, I have a big fan blowing air into the back of my pc.

Thanks for replies, what would be (cheapest) the solution?

[NeWbiE :-)]

Cheapest solution might be what got you here (same problem for me). Trust Saph, he'll always get you the best bang for your buck.

[saphalline]

what would be (cheapest) the solution?Turn off your PC and don't use it! :p That costs nothing to fix and you'd save money on your electric bill! :D Hehe...

I have a big fan blowing air into the back of my pc.Wait wait... you have a fan blowing air INTO your PC??

Ok, start from the beginning. Give us a manufacturer and model number and tell us ALL hardware changes that have been made to the system since you bought it. Also let us know if you've dusted it out recently.

[Haze]

I've dusted it out as best I can.

System Manufacturer: Fujitsu Siemens
System Model: GA-8I848PM (mobo)

had 512 mb RAM 330hrtz(I think, I'm sure about 512 ram tho.),

ATI Radeon 9200 SE 128mb Graphics card.

Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz (2 CPUs)

Some cheapy powersupply that we've thrown away, it died before..

Don't know about HDD, how could I find out?

Yes the fan is blowing air into the back, but now into the side, I've been careful to remove dust though. Also the fan on my psu has now stopped moving...

Thanks for your replys!

[mjc]

Yes the fan is blowing air into the back, but now into the side, I've been careful to remove dust though. Also the fan on my psu has now stopped moving...

Thanks for your replys!


Fan on the back needs to be pulling air out.

It will continue to have problems until you replace that power supply...without a fan IT is overheating, and there are NO sensors in it telling you that it is...

[saphalline]

Ok, so the system has since been upgraded to 1.5GB of RAM and a passively-cooled 6200, and the previously dead PSU was replaced with a not-so-great PSU. There's also no case fans in there, correct?

So who the heck sold you this system?? I take it you bought it at a custom builder store?

If the CPU HSF unit is stock, it's probably fine, although I question the viability of an HT-enabled P4 3 GHz on such an old chipset. HyperThreading and single-channel RAM! :eek: Talk about a performance hit!

The real "solution" to the overheating problem will be the purchase of some case fans (I recommend you max-out the fan spots in your case) and a good quality PSU. Just FYI, I spent $165 USD on a new PSU for my main gaming system just 4 months ago, so you can understand why we don't consider £18 to be nearly enough!

[Haze]

Indeed, no case fans. It was bought from PC world I think, and under warranty we had a gfx card put in because it struggled running games alot (bit of a cheat), I bought a 1 gig stick of ram and stuck that in. PSU went got a cheapy from ebuyer.com to see if it was the problem, which it was - sorted.

But even with those specs I lag in games like WoW (which I quit months and months ago) I could never work out what was making my pc stuggle to run the games. I put it down to non-gaming gfx card.

[saphalline]

Indeed, no case fans.:eek:

I'm... just... not even going to comment...

Get some case fans in there, and replace that cheapo PSU with something that is actually reliable. If you need help picking one out, ask us.


But even with those specs I lag in gamesWell yeah! You upgraded from a cheap vid card to another cheap vid card two generations further! Of course your gaming performance sucked! GeForce 6200? I could have told you that sucks for anything more intensive than online poker. :rolleyes: Again, I spent $395 USD for my new vid card 4 months ago.

Gaming costs money, dude! You're gonna have to get used to that idea! The vid card makes all the difference in the world. If you aren't willing to spent at least $150 USD, don't even bother.