Cpu overheat?

[racerboybmw]

new pc intel D945gccr board , 2 gb ram,win xp
boots fine but after a few minutes it locks up- but when it does the screen "separates into multiple small boxes scattered around the desktop image" would be the best description. Afetr it sit for a few minutes, restart and check hardware monitor. after 2 minutes it states processor temp 62 C
internal temp 34 C processor fan speed at 3180. escape to windows and it runs fine for about 5 minutes then it freezes up-(no ney action or mouse movement, no hot keys or an action unless you power down manually) or the monitor loses signal (dark screen and power light goes orange) Is the temps in range for the CPU?

[mjc]

Yes, that sounds like a heating problem...especially with that 62 C processor temp after a restart.

What kind of cooling do you have (CPU, case, etc), be specific?

[racerboybmw]

Nothing in the case-- side panel off still . Macool CPU fan and fan on power supply, case is an ULTRA

[mjc]

You need at least two case fans...one bringing air in and one exhausting it out the back.

[racerboybmw]

What would be a good temp for the CPU to run?

[saphalline]

Comfortable CPU temps (in general) are 45C or lower for idle temp and 55C or lower for full-load temp. The further your CPU temp is under these values, the better!

Your current CPU temp is a cause for concern, but I don't necessarily think it's the only issue. You might also want to test your RAM. Since the graphical anomalies indicate an overheating problem, and since that would normally be an issue with the vid card, and since your system has onboard video, it's entirely possible that your chipset is also overheating and/or your RAM is faulty. Faulty RAM in an onboard video-based system means graphical corruption!

If solving the overheating issue doesn't eliminate all your problems, your RAM is next in line...

[racerboybmw]

I have added 2 thermaltake 120 mm case fans, switched to a thermaltake golden orb 2 cpu fan, I still have the same issue. after a cold (off all day) startup in about 5 minutes the monitor reads 56, it starts at 38,remote temps at 30 starting at 23, cpu fan rpm a 1740 ( 1800 max for specs). this is just at idle loads. temp holds at 58 after 10 minutes thats when lock up occurs. pc can be started but will not display unless it cool downs longer. Any thoughts?

[racerboybmw]

Also I have an AGP video card, install that with same results of lockup after 8-10 minutes
GeForce 7600 GT

[racerboybmw]

Switched out ram (pulled 2 1024 ddr2) added 1 ddr2 1024 from other system with same overheating issues. CPU or faulty board maybe?

[Rick]

Where are you getting your temp reading ?
From the Bios ?
Or an add in program?

The bios health / monitor area should show you the cpu temps.
Boot to the bios and watch it there
see how high it goes.

Is this system set to auto detect the cpu ?
Or is it being Over clocked ?

[racerboybmw]

Is there a way syem (cpu ) temps can be veiwed while running XP instead of in BIOS

[racerboybmw]

IN bios, no over clockin g set

[Rick]

Intel has a desktop program that monitors the mother board / cpu temps and fan speeds

it should be on the original disks you got with the motherboard
BUT
The Bios temps are the most accurate

[Whyzman]

It is very common now-a-days to have included with the motherboard driver disk a temp monitoring program that is designed to be viewed in Windows. You might want to have a look there. BIOS monitoring is probably the most accurate, but the problem is that you're not able to see things under load...in which case third party software, especially, if supplied specifically for your motherboard would be good...

[racerboybmw]

It ran 10 minutes again this time at lock up it did not give a strange video display, just simply froze up temp at 59c in bios. Why does it start off so high? m other system does not even get as high as this one starts at.

[Whyzman]

Is this a self-build, or proprietary system??

[racerboybmw]

self build a friend did

[Rick]

It ran 10 minutes again this time at lock up it did not give a strange video display, just simply froze up temp at 59c in bios. Why does it start off so high? m other system does not even get as high as this one starts at.


This is starting to sound like a heatsink mounting problem.
To much thermal paste ?
To little thermal paste?
No thermal Paste?
the film covering the thermal pad not removed ?

Intel chips will shut themselves off to protect the system
Also what do you have the health monitor warnings set at ?
fan speed,cpu temp, M/B temp?

[Whyzman]

It appears that you may want to have a look at the processor/heatsink interface...something might be awry there with either the thermal tape or paste...

[Whyzman]

'Cmon Rick, that's twice now you've beaten me to the punch! :D

[Rick]

Why does it start off so high? m other system does not even get as high as this one starts at.

The cpu can go from cool to meltdown in a few seconds
Yes I said seconds ..
Like 10 to 15 seconds If not cooled properly

[Rick]

'Cmon Rick, that's twice now you've beaten me to the punch! :D


OK
I'll go pock fun at the old lady for a few and let you have at it :p :D

[racerboybmw]

Will pull fan and reaaply paste, hardware monitor settings are not alterable in this system. I still did have the same heat issue with the old masscool fan that was installed-FYI- as I remeber the first time he setu he did not apply paste, ran it once the remebered to do it. if that helps

[Whyzman]

Hehe...we've been posting a minute apart... I think, well...I know I need some coffee. Obviously, I'm off to a slow start this morning! :D

[Whyzman]

If you're going to pull the heatsink, you might want to consider lapping it...just cause you're in a good spot to do so...

[Whyzman]

Lapping:

http://www.overclockersclub.com/guides/heatsinklappingguide.php

[racerboybmw]

Fann pulled, cleaned all old paste and reapplied silver compound thermal paste started system and bios started at 52, ran up to 64 and loaded windows without freezing, ran a few minues then crazy video freezeup again. Other thoughts?

[Whyzman]

I'd seriously go with lapping the sink... What happens initially, is that the 320 paper will show you if your high-centered. If the sink is cupped the corners will show sand marks immediately and you'll know if you're getting good contact. It still appears that you're not getting adequate die/sink contact...

[Rick]

as I remeber the first time he setu he did not apply paste, ran it once the remebered to do it. if that helps

This may be a BIG part of your problem
Over heated and cooked something

How hot did it get ?

[racerboybmw]

Pulled and applied silver thermal; paste (removed old) started at 52 went to 64 this time and froze with the crazy video display- that only seems to happen at 62+ temps

[racerboybmw]

do not know how bad it got I inherited this issue (my sons PC) after he and his freind had these issues

[racerboybmw]

I have a aboard of same as in PC (new) should I try a board swap to see if issue is on the board? or do you think it is in the CPU

[saphalline]

as I remeber the first time he setu he did not apply paste, ran it once the remebered to do it.Something most likely died. Probably the CPU. What CPU is this, anyway?

Try the mobo swap just to make sure, but I'm guessing the CPU has been fried since the beginning. Time to get a new one.

[racerboybmw]

That is what I suspected but I wanted a better option than that. Most CPU temps dont start at 50+ unless there is something wrong with it I thought.

[racerboybmw]

Sorry Pentium Dual Core 2.46 LGA 775 socket

[saphalline]

The fastest PDC currently available runs at 2.0 GHz. Is this CPU OC'ed??

[racerboybmw]

Core 2 dou 2.4 e6600 Sorry this is more accurate

[saphalline]

There's no F'ing way an E6600 should ever be that high at idle!! Something is most definitely wrong. Either the CPU or the mobo. I suspect the CPU got fried the first time it went without any thermal interface material, but there's also a chance that the mobo is bad in addition to the CPU (due to the initial overheat).

[Rick]

It's time to go into the bios and load failsafe defaults
Not the optimum

Then check the dip switch settings (IF ANY )on the mother board
Make sure they are at factory defaults for auto detect

Once this is done
go into the bios and check the cpu speed
Then check the voltages in the system health monitor

Like saphalline said
it should not be running this high

Before swapping another cpu into it double check everything
If it has the dip's set wrong a new cpu will end up doing the same thing

Also check the bios version
Make sure it is up to date
DON'T attempt to update the bios till you have a working stable system and the heat is lowered
Just check the bios version and make sure it is not a version that has a problem