can you help me choose? - Moved

[destructionmama]

Hi all:

I am gonna buy a new laptop but I came down to two, and I don't know which one to choose, I want to play some games with the new laptop, can you guys tell me which one is better and why?



the First one:

Processor:
AMD Turion™ 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-64 (2.2GHz, 1600MHz I/O Bus, L1 Cache 64KB/64KB, L2 Cache 1MB)

Operating System:
Microsoft® Windows® Vista Home Premium

Memory:
* Standard Memory: 2x1GB DDR2 (667 MHz)
* Maximum Memory: 4GB DDR2
* Expansion Modules: 512MB, 1GB or 2GB DDR2

Hard Disk Drive:
* 250.0 billion bytes, 2.5mm height, S-ATA, 4200rpm.

Optical Drive:
* Built-in DVD Super-Multi Double Layer Drive functions:
* Read: CD-ROM (24x), DVD-ROM (8x),
* Write: CD-R (24x), CD-RW (4x), DVD-R (8x), DVD-R DL (4x), DVD-RW (4x), DVD+R (8x), DVD+R DL (4x) DVD+RW (4x), DVD-RAM (5x)

Display System:
* Type: TFT Active Matrix colour LCD display
* Size (diagonal): 17.0” Wide XGA TFT with TruBrite™
* Native LCD Panel Resolution: 1440x900x16.7 million colours
* External Support and Max. Colour Support (dependant
* On CRT): Up to 2,048 x 1536 x 16.7 million colours

Graphics Controller:
* ATI® Mobility Radeon® HD2400
* Video Memory: 128MB dedicated VRAM
* Up to 895MB available graphics memory using
* Hypermemory

Sound System:
* Realtek ALC268 Software Sound, High Definition Audio,
* 2 Built-in Harman/Kardon® stereo speakers, 3D Sound Support, Direct 3D Sound, DirectSound, DirectMusic, MIDI(playback).

Communication:
* V.92 56K Data/Fax Modem
* 10/100 integrated Ethernet LAN
* Atheros LAN (802.11a/g/n)
* Bluetooth v2.0
* Integrated 1.3 Megapixel Web Camera for Video over IP
* Integrated microphone for Voice over IP

Expansion:
* 2 memory slots - each slot has 1GB. Zero free slots. Slots can be filled with 512MB, 1GB, 2GB modules
* 1 Express Card Slot
* Ports: 5-in-1 Bridge Media Adaptor (SDHC Card, xD picture card, Memory Stick, Memory Stick Pro, Multi Media Card), 6 USB 2.0, RJ11, RJ45, IEEE1394, external microphone port, headphone port, RGB, HDMI, TV-Out (S-Video)

Keyboard:
* CANADIAN BILINGUAL KEYBOARD
* Full sized 103 keys with 12 function keys
* 2.7mm keystroke, 6mm height
* Dedicated Windows Keys.
* CD/DVD Control Function: Play/Pause, Stop, Previous track/Next track
* Color: Silver

Pointing Device:
* Dual mode LuxPad

Additional Software:
* Toshiba ConfigFree™
* Adobe Acrobat Reader
* TOSHIBA Disc Creator
* TOSHIBA DVD PLAYER
* Norton Internet Security™ 2007 – 90 day trial
* Microsoft Office 2007 – 60 day trial

Physical Dimensions:
* Dimensions: (WxDxH) 399 x 288 x 36.0/46.5 mm
* Weight: 3.27kg (7.2lbs)
* Color: Onyx Blue Metallic

AC Adapter:
* 75W external Universal AC adapter input voltage (100 –
* 240V 50/60Hz Frequency (Universal), output voltage
* (19V, 3.95A).
* Dimensions : (WxHxD) 128 x 51 x 30.5 mm
* Weight: 350g

Battery:
* Battery Type: Removable, Rechargeable 6-cell
* Lithium Ion (Li-ion) 10.8V x 4000mAh capacity
* Dimensions: (WxHxD) 208 x 21 x 74 mm
* Recharge Time: Up to 4 hours off / 12 hours on

BIOS:
* ACPI support, PnP support, VESA support,
* DPMS support, DDC Support, SM BIOS support, PCI BIOS
* Support

Security:
* Cable lock slot, power on password, supervisor password

Environmental Specifications:
* Temperature: Operating 5° 35°C (41° 95°F);
* Non Operating –20° 65°C (-4°149°F)
* Thermal Gradient: Operating 15 C per hr. max;
* Non Operating 20 C per hr. max
* Relative Humidity: Operating 20% to 80% non-condensing; Non-Operating: 10% to 90% non-condensing
* Altitude (relative to sea level): Operating: -9.14 to 3,048m;
* Non-Operating: -9.14 to 12,192m.
* Shock: Operating: 10G; Non-Operating 60G
* Vibration: Operating 0.5G; Non-Operating: 1G


the other one:p

Processor:
* Intel® Core2™ Duo processor T5450 (1.66GHz, 667MHz FSB, L1 Cache 64KB/64KB, L2 Cache 2MB)

Operating System:
* Microsoft® Windows® Vista Home Premium

Memory:
* Standard Memory: 2x1GB DDR2 (667 MHz)
* Maximum Memory: 4GB DDR2
* Expansion Modules: 512MB, 1GB or 2GB DDR2

Hard Disk Drive:
* 200.0 billion bytes, 9.5mm height, S-ATA, 4200rpm.


Optical Drive:
* Built-in HD DVD Super-Multi Double Layer Drive functions:
* Maximum speed and compatibility:
* Read: HD DVD-ROM(1X), CD-ROM(24X), DVD-ROM(8x)
* Write: CD-R(24X), CD-RW(4X), DVD-R(4X), DVD-R DL (2X), DVD-RW(4X), DVD+R (4X), DVD +R DL (2.4X), DVD+RW(4X), DVD-RAM (3X)

Display System:
* Type: TFT Active Matrix colour LCD display
* Size (diagonal): 17” Wide XGA+ TFT with TruBrite™
* Screen Technology
* Native LCD Panel Resolution: 1440x900x16.7 million colours
* External Support and Max. Colour Support (dependant
* On CRT): Up to 2,048 x 1536 x 16.7 million colours

Graphics Controller:
* Mobile Intel® GMA X3100 with up to 358MB of shared video
* memory

Sound System:
* Realtek ALC268 Software Sound 16-bit stereo; Intel High
* Definition Audio, 2 Built-in Harman/Kardon® stereo
* speakers, Direct 3D Sound, DirectSound, DirectMusic,
* MIDI(playback).

Communication:
* V.92 56K Data/Fax Modem
* 10/100 integrated Ethernet LAN
* Intel® Wireless LAN (802.11a/g/n)
* Bluetooth v2.0
* Integrated 1.3 Megapixel Web Camera for Video over IP
* Integrated microphone for Voice over IP


Expansion
* 2 memory slots - each slot has 1GB. Zero free slots. Slots can be filled with 512MB, 1GB, 2GB modules
* 1 Express Card Slot
* Ports: 5-in-1 Bridge Media Adaptor (SD Card, xD picture card, Memory Stick, Memory Stick Pro, Multimedia Card), 6 USB 2.0, RJ11, RJ45, IEEE1394, external microphone port, headphone port, RGB, TV-Out (S-Video)

Keyboard:
* CANADIAN BILINGUAL KEYBOARD
* Full sized 103 keys with 12 function keys
* 2.7mm keystroke, 6mm height
* Dedicated Windows Keys.
* CD/DVD Control Function: Play/Pause, Stop, Previous track/Next track
* Color: Silver

Pointing Device:
* Dual mode LuxPad

Additional Software:
* Toshiba ConfigFree™
* Adobe Acrobat Reader
* InterVideo® WinDVD™
* TOSHIBA Disc Creator
* Ulead DVD Movie Factory®
* Norton Internet Security™ 2007 – 90 day trial
* Microsoft Office 2007 – 60 day trial

Physical Dimensions:
* Dimensions: (WxDxH) 399 x 288 x 36/46.5 mm
* Weight: 3.27kg (7.2lbs)
* Color: Onyx Blue Metallic


AC Adapter:
* 75W external Universal AC adaptor input voltage (100 –
* 240V 50/60Hz Frequency (Universal), output voltage
* (19V, 3.95A).
* Dimensions : (WxHxD) 127 x 51 x 30.5 mm
* Weight: 350g

Battery:
* Battery Type: Removable, Rechargeable 6-cell
* Lithium Ion (Li-ion) 10.8V x 4000mAh capacity
* Dimensions: (WxHxD) 208 x 21 x 74 mm
* Recharge Time: Up to 4 hours off / 12 hours on

BIOS:
* ACPI support, PnP support, VESA support,
* DPMS support, DDC Support, SM BIOS support, PCI BIOS
* Support

Security:
* Cable lock slot, power on password, supervisor password

Environmental Specifications:
* Temperature: Operating 5° 35°C (41° 95°F);
* Non Operating –20° 65°C (-4°149°F)
* Thermal Gradient: Operating 15 C per hr. max;
* Non Operating 20 C per hr. max
* Relative Humidity: Operating 20% to 80% non-condensing; Non-Operating: 10% to 90% non-condensing
* Altitude (relative to sea level): Operating: -60 to 3,000m.;
* Non-Operating: -60 to 10,000m.
* Shock: Operating: 7G; Non-Operating 60G
* Vibration: Operating 0.2G; Non-Operating: 1G

[jlreich]

The second system has the better CPU and overall better platform.

But, the first system has a dedicated video card, albeit not a good one. But any dedicated video card is better than onboard video.

Neither system will play games very well. Laptops are not meant to play games.

So many people these days are wanting laptops to play games on. The only laptops meant for gaming start around $3000. And even then their desktops equivalents will smoke them for far less money.

[saphalline]

Well now, it does depend on which games you want to play! :p If you're thinking of playing an older game like Baldur's Gate or NOLF, then either of them will work well! If you're thinking of playing a newer game like Oblivion or Halo 2, then jlreich is correct.