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tad214
06-09-2001, 07:15 PM
hello,
hope everyone is having a good weekend. i will not take up much of your time, i just have a real quick question. could you tell me if there is any difference that would be noticable in changing my jumper settings for my bus to run at 60 instead of 66. (speed). i am changing my processor speed from 166 to 200. however, it will not run at 200mhz. so i am wanting to lower my bus to 60, then i will be able to get 180mgz with multiplier of 2.5. i hope this is not a silly question. but i have all my computers fixed and i have nothing to do, so i am just basically playing around to see what i can do and cannot. that is the best learning tool i have found.
thanks in advance for any responses. have a great weekend. DALE

bassman
06-10-2001, 10:05 AM
Morning Tad,
Well, I'm not into this overclocking stuff but I have tried to pay attention to those that are. And since no one else has replied yet, and at 6:30 on Sunday morning I don't have enough of a life to get away from this machine http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif I will give it a try.
Clocking is done in just the manner you discribed (setting jumpers on bus speed and mutipliers), overclocking is when these settings exceed what your processor is rated at. The life expectancy of this experiment is dependant on the make and model of your mobo, cpu and I think your ram.
You say all your machines are fixed and your looking for something to do. Are you willing to loose a chip or board for this experiment?
There are some experienced overclockers on this board and I am sure they will get to you soon, until then I recommend checking here (http://www.pcguide.com/opt/oc/intro.htm) and doing a search on Google (http://www.google.com)
Good luck and have a nice day http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/cool.gif

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tad214
06-10-2001, 10:32 AM
Originally posted by bassman:
Morning Tad,
Well, I'm not into this overclocking stuff but I have tried to pay attention to those that are. And since no one else has replied yet, and at 6:30 on Sunday morning I don't have enough of a life to get away from this machine http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif I will give it a try.
Clocking is done in just the manner you discribed (setting jumpers on bus speed and mutipliers), overclocking is when these settings exceed what your processor is rated at. The life expectancy of this experiment is dependant on the make and model of your mobo, cpu and I think your ram.
You say all your machines are fixed and your looking for something to do. Are you willing to loose a chip or board for this experiment?
There are some experienced overclockers on this board and I am sure they will get to you soon, until then I recommend checking here (http://www.pcguide.com/opt/oc/intro.htm) and doing a search on Google (http://www.google.com)
Good luck and have a nice day http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/cool.gif

hello bassman,
basically what i am wanting to know is, will i see a big difference going from 66 to 60 bus speed.

bassman
06-10-2001, 10:55 AM
you really wont notice anything on the bus speed. You are setting the cpu speed by a combonation of bus speed and multiplier. And I'm pretty sure you won't notice a difference from 166 to 180. The noticeable change in processor speed must be in the hundreds, and then it will be minimal.
The most bang for the buck is Ram.
If you can afford to loose it and are looking for something to do, I say "go for it". If you are looking for a performance increase, then buy Ram.
Hope this helps
ps. I am on the chat channel right now 8:00 pacific time

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tjaymadison
06-10-2001, 10:57 AM
In The PC Guide -- > Overclocking Risks and Reward (http://www.pcguide.com/opt/oc/risks.htm)


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AwARe
06-10-2001, 12:31 PM
Hello Tad,

Depending on your MoBo/CPU you may be able to raise the Voltage a bit to get it to run at 200mhz

As far as will you notice a difference at 180? maybe maybe not, might run faster but also might run slower at 180. Try it then benchmark it and see, thats really the only way to know.

In most cases a 166 will run at 208mhz but not always, at the very least it should run in the 180 range. Depends if its an AMD or intel, MMX non-MMX etc etc etc

Some are better then others,
If its a 166 AMD with 3D now etc you probably have a good chance....if its an intel non-MMX 166 probably not much chance of getting much of "if any" improvement out of it......

It helps to have some type of temprature monitoring available while doing this kind of stuff, even if its only sys temp monitor on the MoBo.

If you have 75mhz avail to you id try that instead.........60mhz is only going to give you 150 by the way, 60x2.5 is only 150 60x3 is 180 75x2.5 is somewhere in the 180-190 range no time to do that math hehe

Good Luck!

nimnorf2
06-10-2001, 09:40 PM
Tad,
When I read the posts of guys like Aware,... I just ... I don't know squat. How do these guys know all this stuff? That said, if you're just down the road in Padu. KY I think you ought to just jump on I-71 and come up to Cincinnati and get all my computers running fine! Dag, buddy, if it ain't broke...
Have fun!
Peace