Vista is extremly slow communicating to server 2003

[supanatral]

We just upgraded our server and we installed Windows server 2003 64bit RC2 and It works great except for vista machines. If I'm trying to copy files, or run a client program that needs to communicate with the server, it takes about an hour just to load. XP machines works fine. What could cause this issue?

[Erik]

Vista is the cause. I have played around with Vista computers on a domain and discovered many weird issues that I didn't see with XP. Even when I had the exact same PC dual boot to run XP and Vista with fresh installs.

I would start by looking at CPU usage, RAM, and hard drive usage while it is sitting around.

[Variable]

I would look at the Event Logs, slow boot up problems on a domain are usually caused by DNS issues. Is this a domain? Try hard coding the local DNS server if your on a domain. If there is a firewall active allow communication to your servers from your PC for any ports you use, file and print sharing, DNS and whatever ports the client app runs over.

[saphalline]

Are you running IPv4 or IPv6? Vista's TCP/IP stack was completely rewritten. It operates on IPv6 natively, and translates down to IPv4. Just about every other OS is the other way around. However, many many new network control devices will use IPv6 if possible. Check your switches and routers - are any of them set to use IPv6?

[supanatral]

Saphalline - Are you serious?! that is completly rediculous! Especially considering that IPv6 is not nessisary to upgrade to anymore since NAT was introduced. We all use IPv4 right now

Can devices using IPv6 communicate with devices using IPv4 on the same network? If I just enabled DHCP using IPv6 for just the vista machines, would that work?

P.S. I don't get why people wonder why I hate vista.

[supanatral]

With many headaches and many broken keyboards later, I found a temporary solution. go into command prompt as administrator and type these two commands:
netsh interface tcp set global rss=disabled
netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled

A more permanant solution to this problem is to go back to XP or for that matter get a mac

Erik: I would like to correct what you just said. Vista doesn't have problems when its in a domain setting specifically, vista just has problems in general.

[YODA74]

http://www.cisco.com/web/about/ac123/ac147/ac174/ac197/about_cisco_ipj_archive_article09186a00800c830a.ht ml

Connecting IPv6 Routing Domains Over the IPv4 Internet

[Ghost_Hacker]

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vista just has problems in general.



LOL. it never pays to be an early adapter to a Microsoft product unless you are willing to accept the possiblity of having to fight with it. :D

[Ghost_Hacker]

Are you running IPv4 or IPv6? Vista's TCP/IP stack was completely rewritten. It operates on IPv6 natively, and translates down to IPv4. Just about every other OS is the other way around. However, many many new network control devices will use IPv6 if possible. Check your switches and routers - are any of them set to use IPv6?


IPv6 was all the rage 5 years ago...but I have yet to see any company move towards it. Outside backbone providers has anyone seen a company transition to IPv6?

[Variable]

Nope. I haven't seen it used anywhere. If there are any posters in College right now, they may be messing with Version 6 with Internet 2 or whatever they are calling it. When you look at moving to Version 6 from a practical standpoint, it is going to be a fairly slow process. I don't see replacing core routers happening for many companies unless, the routers die and need to be replaced.... that could take awhile. You think getting IT people to learn Vista is tough, try telling your router guys they have to learn a new network scheme. Going to hex adds confusion. When it catches on, the gap between networking pros and the common guy will grow wider by a few feet. Explaining sub netting is tough enough, now they have to learn new numbering methodology. Imagine you break in to a explanation midstream ....

Puzzled Business Owner: ( uhh, what? f=15? So to get FF's numerical value you multiply 15*16 and add 15*1? That gives you 255? Why do you multiply by 16 and by one? Wouldn't it be 15*15? ...

Poor Disheveled IT Guy: ...No, you see the numbering scheme is based on a base 16. The numbers we normally use is base 10. They use letters A-F to signify 10-15.

Puzzled Business Owner: ..You said it is base 16, evidently you missed a letter, G should be 16...

Poor Disheveled IT Guy: Smiles slightly and jumps out the window.

[jlreich]

Puzzled Business Owner: ( uhh, what? f=15? So to get FF's numerical value you multiply 15*16 and add 15*1? That gives you 255? Why do you multiply by 16 and by one? Wouldn't it be 15*15? ...

Poor Disheveled IT Guy: ...No, you see the numbering scheme is based on a base 16. The numbers we normally use is base 10. They use letters A-F to signify 10-15.

Puzzled Business Owner: ..You said it is base 16, evidently you missed a letter, G should be 16...

Poor Disheveled IT Guy: Smiles slightly and jumps out the window.
LOL! That's what it will be like. Sounds like fun doesn't it? :p

[Ghost_Hacker]

Nope. I haven't seen it used anywhere. If there are any posters in College right now, they may be messing with Version 6 with Internet 2 or whatever they are calling it. When you look at moving to Version 6 from a practical standpoint, it is going to be a fairly slow process. I don't see replacing core routers happening for many companies unless, the routers die and need to be replaced.... that could take awhile. You think getting IT people to learn Vista is tough, try telling your router guys they have to learn a new network scheme. Going to hex adds confusion. When it catches on, the gap between networking pros and the common guy will grow wider by a few feet. Explaining sub netting is tough enough, now they have to learn new numbering methodology. Imagine you break in to a explanation midstream ....

Puzzled Business Owner: ( uhh, what? f=15? So to get FF's numerical value you multiply 15*16 and add 15*1? That gives you 255? Why do you multiply by 16 and by one? Wouldn't it be 15*15? ...

Poor Disheveled IT Guy: ...No, you see the numbering scheme is based on a base 16. The numbers we normally use is base 10. They use letters A-F to signify 10-15.

Puzzled Business Owner: ..You said it is base 16, evidently you missed a letter, G should be 16...

Poor Disheveled IT Guy: Smiles slightly and jumps out the window.


LOL :D

I find that if you included a few screen shots with your presentation. These types are better able to understand the issue so that they can build an "action plan" for "moving forward". :D