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Smile
10-08-2001, 06:31 AM
Many companies as hama www.hama.de (http://www.hama.de) offer round cables for use with ultra ata 66/100 hard disk drives. There have been a lo of discussions about cross talk because the wires are all put together. So is this really a problem. Is it unsafe to use these type of cables because you risk loosing you data or maybe hard disk damage may occur ?

Rick
10-08-2001, 08:13 AM
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I can’t read the DE site you listed in your post.
I can however tell you that in the round cable market it is best to get the Highest quality cables you can.
The link below is to the dealer I use and the cables I use for IDE drives.
http://www.kdcomputers.com/exec/categoryBrowse?m=63

They also have round cables for every other type of device that can use them.
http://www.kdcomputers.com/exec/categoryBrowse?m=2

The section of Scsi cables is also here. http://www.kdcomputers.com/exec/categoryBrowse?m=67

Unfortunately this dealer does not ship out side the US

I have not seen any data lose caused by the round cables.
They do make putting a large number of devices into a small space easier.
Also allow for better air flow.

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kayofcircles
10-08-2001, 10:42 AM
Thanks, Rick..you saved me a search. http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/smile.gif

iisbob
10-08-2001, 09:47 PM
I second Rick on this, ( by the way thanks for the KD computer's site link )-i've not noticed any problems from using the rounded cables, and i have noticed a significant reduction in heat on my system by using them ( 1-2* on an Athlon system is significant http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif )

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Smile
10-08-2001, 09:47 PM
Nice page, and the cables also http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/smile.gif But I live ouside US so this doesn't help http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/frown.gif

Anyway Thanks http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/smile.gif I think I'll gonna get these hama cables anyway

mjc
10-09-2001, 08:01 PM
There is going to be crosstalk no matter if the cable is flat or round...that is why they added the 40 extra wires for ground wires. the rounded cables, if nothing, else provide a much neater and professional looking interior. They reduce obstructions and improve airflow, both of which would significantly improve cooling.

Besides, they come in many more coloors than basic grey and they look so great installed...if you are building a custom system, isn't that what it is all about...customizing.

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Paleo Pete
10-09-2001, 11:11 PM
I don't think crosstalk sohould be a major issue. Going on the same theory as a couple of the comments in this topic I have always split my flat ribbon cables into sections of 4 or 5 wires (using a hobby razor knife, VERY carefully) and bundled them by wrapping with thin wire, usually from a telephone cable.

With IDE drives, I've never noticed any difference at all between these cables and standard flat ones, except for what has been noted already. Neater, easier installation of hardware, and better airflow.

Does it work? You've never seen me post messages here on a machine rigged up any other way. OK, except for my mother's machine, which I used a few weeks ago, but I didn't build it myself...I talked my sister through it on the phone, and wasn't about to have her try and split cables... http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/eek.gif She'd never seen the inside of a computer before...By the way, she did an excellent job, it worked perfect and still does almost 2 years later.

Note: The above is NOT a procedure recommended for amateurs. Even for experienced builders/rebuilders, make sure you have a few spare cables lying around to practice on, and inspect them closely for nicks that expose wire. I trashed at least a half dozen cables getting the hang of it...Use thin wire to bind them, or tie wraps, and with wire use about 6-8 wraps. Snug is sufficient, you're not going to be pulling jeeps out of ditches with them... http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif

Make a small split, ½-¾", and pull the length of the wires apart gently. Stop within ¼-½" of plugs.

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