PC Build NO $ Limit, But No PC Sense HELP!!!

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I have had my pc for a while now and well its not keeping up with my needs. I love gaming, video editing, ripping, burning, surfing the web naturaly, and of course running programs like limewire and torrentz. The problem is I like speed so I do all of them at the same time. I want to build my own pc, but dont have much sense in it all.

-MOTHERBOARD-

EVGA nForce™ 780i SLI Motherboard

-CHIPSET-

NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI Chipset

-PROCESSOR/CPU-

Intel® Core™2 Extreme Processor QX9650

-VIDEO CARD-

NVIDIA GeForce 8800 Ultra may need two

-CASE-

*Have a few on favorites
*Atx case
*Removable motherboard tray
*toolless drive carrier
*multiple fan locations

-HARD DRIVE-

*1 Terrabyte for leopard

-POWER SUPPLY-

*1000w
*Overvoltage protection
*Efficiency 65-85% the
*higher the better

-MEMORY/RAM-

*Total 6-8g

-DVD-CD Drive-

*one hd and one blue -ray

-Os/Operating System-

*Mac Os X V10.5 Leopard or laterst
*Old computer hard drive has Winows XP run both in one system

I did some research one night and this is what I came up. I am preatty much asking for some help in what I can change, add on, or just straight out scrap. I am the kind of person that likes to buy the best so I dont have to upgrade for a while. Money is no limit so any ideas from anyone out there would be much appreciated. THANKS In advance.

[DarkOwnagePeace]

:rolleyes: hd-dvd is dead scratch the hd-dvd burner, you might as well get a brand new vcr

[Ajmukon]

I have had my pc for a while now and well its not keeping up with my needs. I love gaming, video editing, ripping, burning, surfing the web naturaly, and of course running programs like limewire and torrentz. The problem is I like speed so I do all of them at the same time. I want to build my own pc, but dont have much sense in it all.

-MOTHERBOARD-

EVGA nForce™ 780i SLI Motherboard
Good chioce, but SLI... better would be the X38 chipset/ motherboard
-CHIPSET-

NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI Chipset
All 780i SLI motherboards have this chipset. Chipsets "define" the motherboard. the X38 from intel is quite good.

-PROCESSOR/CPU-

Intel® Core™2 Extreme Processor QX9650

VERY GOOD CHIP, but not sure it will run in the 780i SLI

-VIDEO CARD- [We call it a GPU (Graphics Processing Unit)]

NVIDIA GeForce 8800 Ultra may need two

good, but only if you get a SLI motherboard (for two GPUs). The ATI 3870 X2 is also pretty good.

-CASE-

*Have a few on favorites
*Atx case
*Removable motherboard tray
*toolless drive carrier
*multiple fan locations
Case with 1000W PSU- 379.99 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119136)
-HARD DRIVE-

*1 Terrabyte for leopard
i would Dual boot. Leopard and VISTA. i am assuming that this computer is for gaming?
-POWER SUPPLY- [We call it a PSU (Power Supply Unit)]

*1000w
*Overvoltage protection
*Efficiency 65-85% the
*higher the better
already included if you get the above case
-MEMORY/RAM-

*Total 6-8g
DDR2 800 speed MIN. (if you want DDR3, go ahead and get it, but tell us the Mobo you are GETTING first!)
-DVD-CD Drive-

*one hd and one blue -ray
HD-DVD is dead/ no longer supported. get one B-DR (blue ray burner drive)
-Os/Operating System-

*Mac Os X V10.5 Leopard or laterst
*Old computer hard drive has Winows XP run both in one system
How about a triple boot? XP/MAC/VISTA (you can even add Ubuntu lunix into the mix!)
I did some research one night and this is what I came up. I am preatty much asking for some help in what I can change, add on, or just straight out scrap. I am the kind of person that likes to buy the best so I dont have to upgrade for a while. Money is no limit so any ideas from anyone out there would be much appreciated. THANKS In advance.

no problem!

[mjc]

:rolleyes: you might as well get a brand new vcr

Can I get that in Beta-max?

[Static filled]

LOL (vcr joke)

Appreciate the sugestions. Hope you dont mind me asking why you suggested what you did? I was under the impression that what I chose was preatty much top of the line, good enough for a few years.

Sweet pc case.

[Ajmukon]

well, it is very close to top of the line, but the 8800GT is the min. we recommend for games. (very good price/performance ratio)- but it is not the top of the line card- the 8800 Ultra or 3870 X2 are the top of the line cards.

everything is very good.

[Static filled]

Thanks alot guys appreciate all the help. Gotta go and build my baby.

[Ajmukon]

curiosity, what are you going to use it for?

gaming? productivity?

[George Hallam]

Can i just make a few points :p

get a 780i MOBO

get 3 x 8800 ULTRA's (tri SLI)


Good chioce, but SLI... better would be the X38 chipset/ motherboard

Only get X38/48 if you plan on crossfire they do not work with SLI

VERY GOOD CHIP, but not sure it will run in the 780i SLI

It does

Get DDR2 1066Mhz 4Gb will be fine

Also get a WD raptorx 150Gb HDD they are super fast stick Vista and games on there and your sorted =)

[Ajmukon]

Can i just make a few points :p

get a 780i MOBO

get 3 x 8800 ULTRA's (tri SLI)




Only get X38/48 if you plan on crossfire they do not work with SLI



It does

Get DDR2 1066Mhz 4Gb will be fine

Also get a WD raptorx 150Gb HDD they are super fast stick Vista and games on there and your sorted =)

it does?

i wasn't 100% sure on that.

[George Hallam]

About the X38 supporting SLI there seems to controversy (if that the right word :p) it seems like you need a hacked BIOS so i dont advise that.... but im not 100% sure that intel board support SLI

wheres saph when you need him :(

Edit: found this here (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-253-AS)

Adjust your display configurations, experiment with your advanced 3D settings, and check the effect with a real-time 3D-rendered preview within ATI´s Catalyst™ Control Center to rule your CrossFire system.

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I was going to use it for both. Work and fun.

I decided on going for the 3870 x2 but I guess I will have to use the 8800 since it doesnt work with sli. Checked out the 38x and the 780i and the 780i is better enough to be worth it. Since I am planning on going to ddr3 1600 minimum, and I dont think 38x supports ddr3

DOnt know what MOBO is

Been looking for corsair model of the ddr3 1600, but I heared it was out of stock/no longer manufactured. Any suggestions for memory. Something I wont have to touch or mess with for at least a year and half.

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Also planning on running on MAC OS never had a mac before and I hear they are a lot more fun to work with. Keep my old comp just in case I ever need windows for anything.

[jlreich]

There are no current chipsets that support SLI, without the above mentioned BIOS hack that George talked about (not recommended). You have to go with the 7xx chipsets to get SLI. This is a bummer. :( Although the 780i is still a very good chipset. :)

And yes the x38 does support DDR3. But there are several boards that are sticking with DDR2, so you will have to look through them in order to find the ones that support DDR3. It's up to the manufacturer of the board what they want to put on the board.

The 7xx chipsets do not support DDR3. If you go with a 780i board make sure it supports PCIe 2.0. Most do but some do not. And double check CPU compatibility at the manufacturers website. You don't want to get all the parts, turn it on and nothing happens because it doesn't support the CPU you choose or doesn't support it without a BIOS update or something. ;)

[rond36]

No $ limit!
You want a motherboard that supports CFX and SLI!

Intel Skulltrail D5400XS EATX:
Extended ATX Motherboard for Socket-771 Xeon Processors
Intel 5400 Chipset, 1600 MHz FSB
4 x DDR2 DIMM Slots, Up to 8 GB FB-DIMM DDR2 Memory
Dual Independent Bus, Dual Channel Memory Architecture
Up to 21.3 GB/s Memory Bandwidth
4 x PCI Express x16 Slots (ver. 1.1), 2 x PCI Slot
2 x 133 MHz PCI-X, 2 x 32-bit PCI Slots
6 x Intel Serial ATA-II/300 Ports, RAID 0, 1, 5, 10 Support
Intel Gigabit Ethernet, 10 x USB 2.0 Ports, Firewire, 2 x eSATA
OnBoard 7.1 Channel Audio
Support Quad Crossfire or 2 Way SLI
http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/D5400XS/index.htm

Go to GamePC.com (http://www.gamepc.com/shop/custom.asp?rig=xeon) and configure this:

2 x Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9775 (3.20 GHz) Quad Core - $3,742.00 <--8 CPU cores @ 3.2GHZ
2 x Swiftech MCX-V Pro Cooler For Socket-771 - $240.00
1 x Intel Skulltrail D5400XS EATX - $898.00
4 x Samsung DDR2-800 2GB FB-DIMM - $792.00 <--8GB Quad channel RAM
2 x Seagate Cheetah 15K.4 146GB 15,000 RPM SAS OEM - $1,700.00
4 x Seagate Barracuda ES.2 1 TB 7,200 RPM OEM - $1,600.00
1 x GamePC Rounded SATA / ATA / Floppy Cable Kit - $24.00
1 x 3Ware 9690SA-8I Serial Attached SCSI Controller Retail - $758.00 <--RAID processor W/ 512MB RAM
1 x Sony 1.44 MB Black Floppy Drive - $15.00
1 x Lite-On LH-2B1S Blu-Ray BD-R / DVD ± RW Retail - $785.00
2 x Sapphire Radeon HD 3870 X2 1024MB PCI-E Gen 2.0 - $1,174.00 <--4 GPU cores W/ 2GB RAM
1 x BFG Tech AGEIA PhysX Physics Accelerator 128 MB Retail - $280.00 <--Physics processor W/ 128MB RAM
1 x Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatality Champion Series - $250.00 <--Sound processor W/ 64MB RAM
1 x Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers Retail - $385.00
1 x ATI HDTV Wonder TV Tuner and Remote Retail - $205.00
1 x Supermicro SC743TQ-865B Black EATX Full-Tower w/ 865W PSU - $538.00
2 x Samsung 245BW Black 24" Widescreen LCD Display - $1,196.00
1 x Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard Retail - $89.00
1 x Logitech G5 Laser Gaming Mouse Retail - $68.00
1 x APC Back-UPS RS 1500VA Retail - $280.00
1 x Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate Edition (64-bit) OEM - $388.00
1 x Microsoft Office 2007 Professional Edition OEM - $420.00
1 x Include a GamePC Data Recovery DVD - $120.00
1 x 3 Year Parts and Labor Priority Warranty - $590.00
1 x Full GamePC System Build (Dual CPU System) - $550.00

Subtotal Price (Excludes Discounts, Taxes or Shipping) - $17,087.00

Or this:

2 x Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9775 (3.20 GHz) Quad Core - $3,742.00
2 x Swiftech MCX-V Pro Cooler For Socket-771 - $240.00
1 x Intel Skulltrail D5400XS EATX - $898.00
4 x Samsung DDR2-800 2GB FB-DIMM - $792.00
2 x Seagate Cheetah 15K.4 146GB 15,000 RPM SAS OEM - $1,700.00
4 x Seagate Barracuda ES.2 1 TB 7,200 RPM OEM - $1,600.00
1 x GamePC Rounded SATA / ATA / Floppy Cable Kit - $24.00
1 x 3Ware 9690SA-8I Serial Attached SCSI Controller Retail - $758.00
1 x Sony 1.44 MB Black Floppy Drive - $15.00
1 x Lite-On LH-2B1S Blu-Ray BD-R / DVD ± RW Retail - $785.00
2 x eVGA GeForce 8800 Ultra 768 MB Retail - $1,768.00
1 x BFG Tech AGEIA PhysX Physics Accelerator 128 MB Retail - $280.00
1 x Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatality Champion Series - $250.00
1 x Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers Retail - $385.00
1 x ATI HDTV Wonder TV Tuner and Remote Retail - $205.00
1 x Supermicro SC743TQ-865B Black EATX Full-Tower w/ 865W PSU - $538.00
2 x Samsung 245BW Black 24" Widescreen LCD Display - $1,196.00
1 x Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard Retail - $89.00
1 x Logitech G5 Laser Gaming Mouse Retail - $68.00
1 x APC Back-UPS RS 1500VA Retail - $280.00
1 x Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate Edition (64-bit) OEM - $388.00
1 x Microsoft Office 2007 Professional Edition OEM - $420.00
1 x Include a GamePC Data Recovery DVD - $120.00
1 x 3 Year Parts and Labor Priority Warranty - $590.00
1 x Full GamePC System Build (Dual CPU System) - $550.00

Subtotal Price (Excludes Discounts, Taxes or Shipping) - $17,681.00

That makes my system look sick!

Or you can track down the parts, buy them and build it yourself.

[mjc]

I'd half expect that thing to wake me up some morning saying "Good morning, Dave."

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I always wondered how you can install 2 processors, or even how that would work.

Thanks for the build rond36. Will look into it.

[rond36]

http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/pix/d5400xs_large.jpg
Pretty board isn't it.

[George Hallam]

mmmm *slober* i want it :p

[Ajmukon]

dats bery purdy... :drools:

[david eaton]

Very nice. Two would be even better!!

[Ajmukon]

I'd half expect that thing to wake me up some morning saying "Good morning, Dave."

I expect it to say "Good morning Dave, did you like your coffee? Did i make it too hot for you? Would you like a massage? Oh, i have already opened your most used programs and web pages."

[rond36]

I just noticed that you would need to remove the BFG Tech AGEIA PhysX Physics Accelerator, Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatality Champion Series, and ATI HDTV Wonder TV Tuner from that build. That board only has two PCI slots and both of them would be blocked by the two duel-slot video cards, leaving two PCI-E X16 slots open and the RAID card would be in one of them.

You could install the Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatality Champion Series, and ATI HDTV Wonder TV Tuner if you buy two BFG Tech BFGR88768GTXOCWCE GeForce 8800GTX 768MB liquid cooled single slot video cards. (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143085) If you do that, you might as well liquid cool the whole system.

The specs for that board are wrong at Game PC, it does not have any 133 MHz PCI-X slots (look at the Intel link)

[wickedestman]

all i got say about where the 2 latest setups that rond36 suggested is... damn.... :eek: !!

You can buy a car with that price!

[jlreich]

Who needs a car when you have that! :eek: :D

[wickedestman]

haha true dat... that setup should also be able to do the shopping as well! not just home chores!

BTW what did the guy decide? 17k super-extreme-ginormous fast system or another one?

[Static filled]

Well I was thinking of buying the new Mac Pro with all the highest upgrades. Any body have anything bad to say about it or any reason I should buy it?

Mostly because it has everything I would be looking for and it also runs on mac and dont have to make a Hackintosh.

[George Hallam]

MAC + gaming = big no no

so only get if you dont want to game

[odannyboy000]

No one mentioned that you should SLI two 9800gx2's....

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Can I play games on a mac even if I partition a terabyte for windows?

[rond36]

No one mentioned that you should SLI two 9800gx2's....

None of the 9800gx2 cards that I have seen have the connectors for the SLI bridge. If they are SLI capable they would have to use the PCIe bus for communication between the two cards.

[Ajmukon]

Can I play games on a mac even if I partition a terabyte for windows?
yes, but you need to buy Windows, and the support might not be "there"

A MAC is MUCH more expensive to buy and to "upgrade" than a PC

[Static filled]

can it only partition windwos or will vista work. I would love to play crisis with the 2 3.2 quad core and 16g of ram. See how far it can go. Also I heared that popcorn is a great program to rip dvd to avi or any type of backup.

[Ajmukon]

if this (http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/91404000/wo/FS33JucmWW0a3hVhtBe1pxdwU7b/1.?p=0) is the one your looking at,

i would get 1TB HD for Windows Vista 64BIT.
and you will have to get boot camp.

but it will work

[NewPunk]

Motherboard: EVGA 790i ~$350
CPU: Intel QX9650 ~$1100
CPU Cooler: Zalman 9700 ~$70
(QX9775 not worth getting since it's .2 ghz more and $500 dollars more)
RAM: 4 GB DDR3 ~$300
Graphics Cards: (2x) Sli GeForce 9800 GX2 ~$600 each ($1200)
Harddrive: Seagate 1TB 7200.11 ~$300 (or 2x Seagate 500 GB ~$220)
Case: Antec Ninehundred Gaming Case ~$120
Fan: 120mm Side Case fan ~$8
Power Supply: Antec 1000W ~$220

TOTAL: $3668+taxes (and shipping possibly)

I'd recommend getting at least a 24" LCD to go along with that build because anything less will not take advantage of the extreme graphics resolutions this beast is capable of.

Also, you'll want Windows Vista 64 bit, any version that meets your needs will be fine, just so long as it's 64 bit to allow full usage of the memory.

This build uses onboard sound because I don't think you can even fit a PCI-E sound card on that motherboard with 2 9800GX2's plugged in.

Excellent build for high end usage and enthusiasts. Superior processing and graphical power.



Cheers.

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thanks appreciate it

[Heartborne]

None of the 9800gx2 cards that I have seen have the connectors for the SLI bridge. If they are SLI capable they would have to use the PCIe bus for communication between the two cards.

The 9800 GX2 is SLI capable up to 4 cards. Tom's Hardware did it. Those guys are nuts!

Quad SLI with 2 GPUs per card... it's ridiculous.

[rond36]

If they are SLI capable they would have to use the PCIe bus for communication between the two cards.
I have looked at some other cards and they do have SLI connectors.

[apollo0117]

The sli connector is under a cover on the front of the 9800GX2 so yes they do have sli, one thing you might want to think about with the psu is the 9800GX2 requires a one 8 pin and one a 6 pin power adapter per card. The 9800GX2 has HDMI on the card too. good choice on the 790i and every thing else.

[apollo0117]

Graphics Cards: (2x) Sli GeForce 9800 GX2 ~$600 each ($1200)

Case: Antec Ninehundred Gaming Case ~$120


the Antec Nine hundred case will not fit the 9800GX2 i think. i have it and my 8800gts barely fits. you might want to think about the cooler master cosmos 1000 case.

[rond36]

The sli connector is under a cover on the front of the 9800GX2 That is why I thought that they didn't have one... :)

My CM 830 would work with a 9800 GX2 (or two if I had a different motherboard). My 3870 X2 is 10.5" long and I still have 4" between the end of the card and the hard drive rack. I could easily install that Skulltrail board two QX9775s and two 9800 GX2 cards in my case with room to spare. The only part that conflicts with a 3870 X2 or 9800 GX2 is the tray mounted cross flow fan, but there is an alternative mounting location on the swing out fan bracket. With 665 cubic feet of air per minute blowing into my case who needs the cross flow fan :D

[mjc]

With 665 cubic feet of air per minute blowing into my case who needs the cross flow fan :D

That's not a computer case...that's a flippin' wind tunnel!

[Heartborne]

I do honestly wonder if the original poster meant "no money limit" as in "I can afford a $18,000 computer" or "no money limit" as in "there is no way this computer can cost more than the $2,000 budget I have."

Let's not forget the 50" widescreen HD LCD monitor... if such a thing exists, of course.

[Static filled]

I meant as in the computer can cost me 15,000 and I wouldnt care as long as it can do what I paid for. And you do have a point need the tv.

[Heartborne]

No one mentioned that you should SLI FOUR9800gx2's....

I have fixed your post. You may thank me later.

[George Hallam]

Thats wrong mate

you can only physically SLI two 9800GX2 you may come out with four GPU's..... if you say you can SLI four 9800GX2 that sounds like you are saying you buy four separate 9800GX2 and SLI them

[jlreich]

There is Tri-SLI with the new 790i boards I do believe. I also believe CrossFire has the ability to do four cards.

[rond36]

That's not a computer case...that's a flippin' wind tunnel!

I have 7 102mm 110 CFM Coolermaster fans W/blue LEDs (http://www.frozencpu.com/products/6944/fan-407/Cooler_Master_120x25mm_Dual_Ball_Silent_Fan_-_Blue_LED_Y720DCD-25T1-GP_-_1100CFM.html?tl=g36c15s518), a 92mm 115 CFM Vantec Tornado, and a 140mm 75 CFM fan in my PSU. On my CPU I have a Zalman CNPS7700-Cu LED (http://zalman.co.kr/ENG/product/Product_Read.asp?idx=158) W/120mm 107CFM fan W/red LEDs

Intake:
1X 120mm CM fan in the front cooling the hard drives.
4X 120mm CM fans in the swingout fan bracket cooling the whole motherboard, CPU, GPU, and RAM.
1X 92mm Vantec Tornado mounted in the bottom of the case blowing up directly at the cooling fan on my video card.
~665 CFM intake

Exhaust:
1X 120mm CM fan in the back of the case.
1X 120mm CM fan in the top of the case.
1X 140mm CM fan in the PSU.
~295 CFM exhaust

[dafink]

I meant as in the computer can cost me 15,000 and I wouldnt care as long as it can do what I paid for. And you do have a point need the tv.

Which lottery did you win and where can I buy tickets?? :)