Duel Boot

[TeeCee]

I am running WinXP and I have a HP 5P scanner. HP says they WILL NOT be producing drivers to run with XP for this scanner. The only way I see that I can use the scanner is to have a duel boot with 98SE or WinME. I think I can handle installing a duel boot system, my question is once I do this and do a scan, reboot to XP .. will XP's boot be able to access the other HDD with the operation system with out causing problems.
I'm thinking there should be no problem, but thought I'd ask the experts http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/smile.gif

By the way .. I just started reading this forum about two weeks ago, and it will now always be a part of my Favorites. Nice to see people wanting to help one another in this wild world of ours.

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Thanks,
TeeCee

[hiredgoonz]

You should have a second partition or second hd on which to install XP.

When you install XP, select "perform a clean installation" NOT "upgrade" and then specify the separate partition or the second drive to install it to...

When XP installs, it will add the NT bootloader to your mbr and will give you the option to select XP or Windows (98)...

Once you scan a picture and save it, you can access it from 98 or XP...

One thing to be careful of, when you install XP, do not select "format as NTFS" if you do, you will not be able to access that partition or drive from 98



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When all else fails, read the instructions.

[TeeCee]

Originally posted by hiredgoonz:
You should have a second partition or second hd on which to install XP.

When you install XP, select "perform a clean installation" NOT "upgrade" and then specify the separate partition or the second drive to install it to...



Thanks for the speedy reply.

I already have WinXP on my system. I was going to put in an old 1GB HDD and install 98SE. Maybe this isn't the proper way to do it and not possible ??



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TeeCee

[bassman]

If I'm not mistaken, XP has a built in feature that allows you to run older software by makeing it think it is running in older OS versions (98, 95,...) This should allow you to use your drivers in the false 98 condition.
Check your documentation or Help file on how to set this up.

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[This message has been edited by bassman (edited 11-09-2001).]

[TeeCee]

I'm at work right now so I can not do anything at this time. I will try this out this week end and post the results. I thought about installing it and giving it a try. My thoughts were, MS says it will not work as well HP says on their site that it's too old of technology and they will not be working on drivers for it. Yet I have never seen a better looking scan than my scanner produces, but then I don't get out much http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/smile.gif

What the hey, it's worth a shot. I'd rather not mess with a duel boot anyway.



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TeeCee

[hiredgoonz]

Ok, going the other direction (dual booting with XP already installed) is more difficult...

Basically, you need to create a rescue diskette for XP, install 98, then boot to the rescue diskette and select the repair option...

You can also do it with 3rd party software, like Bootmagic.

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When all else fails, read the instructions.

[iisbob]

Before you go and do something you might regret ( especially if you're not sure what you are doing ) try the W2000 drivers for your scanner; since XP is basiclly just NT version 6.

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[TeeCee]

I've tried the "older software feature" wouldn't work. Think it can not do drivers in that fashion.
I've tried the 2000 drivers with no luck.

The only option I can see is the duel boot. GRRRR HP .. used to think good things about their products.

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Thanks,
TeeCee

[hiredgoonz]

This article explains the process for adding 98 to a 2000 system to end up with a dual boot...
http://www.winntmag.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=8312

Since XP provides the same repair option when booting from the cd, I would guess that as long as you can make an emergency repair disk in XP, it would work the same way...

I have done this successfully twice with 9x/2000...good luck

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[rond36]

Have you tried using the scanner with the windows scanner interface built into windows XP. I have the same problem with my scanner Umax Astra 1220U on a USB port Windows wouldn't let OEM drivers load but installed windows native drivers.The drivers Windows loaded don't turn the cold cathode tube off when the scanner is not in use!(will burn the light out) http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/eek.gif I had to disable the scanner in XP and can only use it in ME. If your scanner doesn't need software signals to turn on and off it might work with the generic Windows drivers.(I'm tribooting Windows ME, XP Pro and Mandrake Linux 8.1)

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Alright who messed it up this time!

[TeeCee]

My scanner is a HP 5P and connects with a SCSI card. The card is an ISA card. I can't get XP to take the card let alone the scanner.
I don't know this for sure but with MS and HP saying it won't work, I'm betting that it's just not going to work. It's a great scanner too.

I have one other solution to my problem that I didn't really want to do but, one has to do what one has to do http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/frown.gif

I'm about to build myself a new system and hand my old one down to the kids. I've done this once before so I could keep their old 200MHz system and network them .. just stinks I have to do this or buy a new one. Don't really want to mess with the duel boot thing. Now I'll have a pile of obsolete junk sitting on the edge of my desk.

Thanks for your help.

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Thanks,
TeeCee

[ErnieK]

Two things

1st - You can get XP boot disk from bootdisk.com
(don't uderstand the size though - over 4MB) for home edition and pro as well.

2nd - I have read somewhere in the past about having a file \ download on one bootable partition and being able to access on second bootable partition, but do not understand how this can be done. Surely when you download (or have a file) on (for example) the partition cotaining Win98 it is totally seperate from XP (installed on fat32). I have somthing niggling in my mind saying that there should be some sort of partition in between them that is accessable from both. Could someone please clarify for me. http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif



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Ernie

[hiredgoonz]

Windows 2000 supports FAT32 and NTFS, Windows 98/ME supports FAT16 and FAT32, but not NTFS...soooo, if you leave your drives or partitions formatted as FAT32, you can access them regardless of what OS you boot...

Example: you have 98 installed on C: and XP installed on D: both are FAT32. You boot into 98, and you can still see D: you can also delete files from D: or do anything else you want there...

If, on the other hand you format D: as NTFS, you will not be able to access it when booted into 98. You will still be able to access the C: when booted into XP...

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When all else fails, read the instructions.

[fixrupr]

I wanted to be able to dual boot Win98/Win98(mine/wife's). The solution found was TRIOS by Romtec. It's a hardware switching device that allows booting to any of 3 IDE drives. It would be better than "piece of junk" taking up space. It is installed into 5.25" bay and comes with ATA-100 cables. The other posts have given solutions to dual booting, this is just another. BTW I paid $80 but have seen it for $60.

[rond36]

1st - You can get XP boot disk from bootdisk.com
(don't uderstand the size though - over 4MB) for home edition and pro as well.

2nd - I have read somewhere in the past about having a file \ download on one bootable partition and being able to access on second bootable partition, but do not understand how this can be done. Surely when you download (or have a file) on (for example) the partition cotaining Win98 it is totally seperate from XP (installed on fat32). I have somthing niggling in my mind saying that there should be some sort of partition in between them that is accessable from both. Could someone please clarify for me.


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Ernie

The boot disk in question is an exe file. You save the exe to your hard drive run it and it will make a set of six floppies the first of which is bootable it runs a command line program similar to MS-DOS with program specific syntax. Before running this program you need to learn the syntax for the commands that you need to use. with the proper commands it will search for and repair a Windows XP installation repair the bootloader in the MBR of your C drive and repair boot.ini in the root of your c drive.

The operating systems are not totaly seperate if when you install Windows XP you install it on a partition with a FAT 32 file system. If both operating systems are on FAT 32 partitions you can freely exchange data files between the two systems but thay don't share program files very well. The problem of them not shareing files is if XP is using the NTFS file system Windows 9X can't see the Windows XP partition but XP can see the 9X partition and read and write to it. When you install XP you can choose NTFS or FAT 32 file system for a duelboot I think it is better to use FAT 32 either way you can use the same data files.



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