NEEEEED urgently HELP!!!!

[zunairnasir]

I have a pentium 3 797 mhz with 512 MB ram and 128MB geforce fx 5200 3d card.i just want to know can this pc is supported with nvidia 7300.or nvidia 6800.can my pc run this card or not.please answer as fast as you can.

your friend

zunair

thank you

[mjc]

Umm....big question...is this an AGP machine?

If so, then maybe, if you can find an AGP version of either of those cards. Otherwise, no.

To better help, full specs on that machine will be needed.

Also, this isn't something that really needs to be labeled 'urgent'. And a better subforum fit would probably be Buying and Upgrading Advice...

[123456]

Most likely an AGP card, because PCI-e wasn't around during the PIII days. If you want to do intense gaming, your PIII is really bogging you down.

[mjc]

Yeah, but there is the onboard with a plain vanilla PCI 'replacement' video card option, too. If that 5200 is a PCI replacement for onboard, then there is little hope of anything to improve game performance.

[rond36]

Most likley his board does not have an AGP slot so PCI is probably the only option. AGP was introduced with the socket 423 Pentium 4 processor. Most PII and PIII boards will have 4 or 5 PCI slots and 2 or 3 ISA slots like this socket 370 DFI board.
http://us.dfi.com.tw/Upload/Product_Picture/cm64alb.jpg

[mjc]

AGP slots were around in the PIII era...there were quite a few socket 370 boards with 1x, 2x and 4x AGP slots. The infamous Intel i81x series of motherboards technically had AGP, but most of the series did not include a slot to be able to change from the totally inadequate onboard solution. The Via series boards from the same age often DID come with slots, so they were the preferred 'enthusiasts' boards.

Even AGP 8x made it to quite a few socket 370/slot 1 boards.

PCI-e, on the other hand is, the later/newer bus type...which came out around the start of the P 4 era...

Also, looking up a timeline...AGP was introduced in 1997, the PIII late 1998...

[zunairnasir]

Yes i have an agp slot.And i want to ask that 7300 supports Ageia Physx Engine or not




Your Freind

Zunair

[mjc]

Please use the "Post Reply" button or "Quick Post" box in the specific thread you are replying to, not the "New Thread" button in the subforum...

What kind of AGP slot 2x, 4x, 8x, 2x/4x 4x/8x?

What game are you trying to play on this machine?

[zunairnasir]

Agp 4x Kane & Lynch;Gears of Wars,Crysis,Call of Duty 4

[mjc]

CoD4 will not run on that system, no matter what video card you install...the processor requirements are too high.

[zunairnasir]

And The Others.And You Didn't Tell ME That Nvidia Geforce 7300 Have Ageia Physx Engine Or Not

[IM back!]

And The Others.And You Didn't Tell ME That Nvidia Geforce 7300 Have Ageia Physics Engine Or Not

not one of those games will work on a PIII, and no the 7300 dose not have a physics accelerator.

[saphalline]

Ok... Let's start by answering your questions...

i just want to know can this pc is supported with nvidia 7300.or nvidia 6800.can my pc run this card or not.Not very likely, but possible, depending on your system's chipset. The main problem is that AGP has had several incompatible specifications, and there's no guarantee that an AGP 3.0 vid card will work in your (potentially) AGP 2.0 slot. You may be able to get a GeForce 6 to work in there, but I'd bet money that a GeForce 7-based vid card will treat you to a blank screen.

And i want to ask that 7300 supports Ageia Physx Engine or notNo. Ageia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ageia) is the company that made the PhysX (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PhysX) PPU, which is a separate chip altogether. There are plans to add PhysX capabilities to future GeForce GPU's, as indicated by the article following the purchase of Ageia by NVidia, but as that was scarcely two months ago, I can't imagine a hybrid GPU will be available even by year's end. (And even when such a GPU is released, your current system will by no means be able to use it!)

Kane & Lynch;Gears of Wars,Crysis,Call of Duty 4Kane & Lynch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kane_%26_Lynch:_Dead_Men) requires a P4 2 GHz or AthlonXP 1800+ at the minimum, as well as 1GB of RAM.

Gears of War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gears_of_War) requires a 2.4 GHz Intel CPU (most likely referring to the NetBurst microarchitecture) or a 2 GHz AMD CPU (K8 no doubt) at the minimum, as well as 1GB of RAM.

Crysis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crysis) requires a 2.8 GHz CPU and 1GB of RAM on WinXP if you even want a frickin' slide show!! :eek: This is the penultimate game right now, requiring so much power on maximum settings with Vista that no computer can currently run it!!

Call of Duty 4 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cod4) is the only game that comes close to being able to run on that old PIII system of yours, and even CoD4 requires a P4 2.4 GHz or A64 2800+ at the minimum. And even though it claims to run on a mere 512MB of RAM on WinXP, I've seen it stutter on max settings with 3 times that much!


There's no hope of getting any of those games to run on a PIII system. To further illustrate the point, let's look at the numbers:

Your PIII 800 operates on a 100 MHz FSB, capable of pushing a maximum of 800 MB/s of data between it and the rest of the system. The puny 256KB of L2 cache doesn't help matters. Moreover, the efficiency of PIII-era chipsets didn't even top 1/3, meaning that on average, your PIII 800 is only seeing about 224 MB/s out of that theoretical 800 figure (28% efficiency). The 100 MHz FSB also means that PC100 SDRAM is your limit, a full 3 steps behind the latest & greatest RAM type!

By contrast, a modern gaming system operates on a true 128-bit dual-channel subsystem, capable of a maximum of 12800 MB/s when using common DDR2-800 RAM. That's a full 12,000 MB/s on top of what your system can theoretically handle!! :eek: Even worse, the efficiency of modern memory controllers exceeds 80%, a far cry from your chipset's 25-29%! So that 12800 figure gets cut down very little to a still-respectable 10240 MB/s at the minimum! Modern CPU's are also boasting anywhere from 1MB to 12MB of L2 cache, making that 256KB of yours look like a cubby-hole! Now throw in the deal-kicker - DDR2 RAM operating at 800MHz and costing just 50 cents per MB on average (for the good gaming stuff, no less!)! :eek: 4GB of DDR2-800 for less than $100 USD compared to your 512MB of PC100 SDRAM? No contest!


It's clear that your current PIII 800 MHz system has no hope of playing the games you want to play. And no amount of upgrading would fix that, short of replacing the entire thing! And I'm not kidding, either! I really do mean EVERYTHING! From the case and the fans and the power supply to the mobo and CPU and RAM - every component would need to be replaced! In light of that, I'd suggest the much more cost-effective solution of buying an X360 and calling it a day. The Xbox 360 will play all of those games except Crysis. And considering it would cost you upwards of $1200 to build a new computer just for one game, I say forget Crysis! Buy yourself an X360 and enjoy the new generation of amazing gaming visuals! :cool:

[zunairnasir]

i have bought a new computer .the specification of this computer is

80 gb hard drive
512 mb ram pc 133
intel i815ee motherboard with agp 4x and 3 ram slots/
genuine intel 1.13A GHZ.processor

the mother board is of trigem computers.i just want to know is this computer is better than the last.
the last one is p3 797 mhz 512mb ram and 20 gb hard drive

the last did not support 80 gb hard.but this support 80 gb hard.can this new computer is able to support geforce 7 series .as it supports geforce6800.

tell me the difference in both computers

when i analyze my last computer from system requirement labs it says processor 797 mhz as exact but when i scan this computer it say 1.13ghz processor rated at 1.69ghz.tell me why?

[mjc]

That 'new' computer isn't going to be much better with modern games...

No, the i815 series can't support a 7xxx series video card, either.

[Heartborne]

zunairnasir, I think you are failing to comprehend the fact that you are using extremely outdated technology to play modern games. It is not going to happen for you. If you want to play modern games, you need to purchase a computer that has AT THE VERY LEAST a dual-core processor and a pci-express video card.