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ranchdog
07-09-2001, 07:26 PM
O.K. Gentlemen (?) here goes. Have an IBM PS/I Consultant with Intel Inside. Woopie. Hard Drive went to lunch and never came back. So I install another good one but I can't do a fresh install of windoz as I get the error message : Unable to recognize Hard Drive. So In Summary -- Have changed HD but can't install O/S. Things sure aren't PnP on this oldie. Need to get it humming so I can give to some Needy person somewhere. I Thank those who may help. http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/wink.gif
(It has a smokin' P166 inside. hehehehe.)
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bassvax
07-09-2001, 08:08 PM
I'm piggy-backing this Ranchdog...a bud at work just got a IBM PS/1 Consultant from his mother-in-law...what a curse...OOPS I mean a great gift http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/smile.gif It's 129MB HD/20 MHz 486SX/4MB RAM/3.5" Floppy (the 5.25" was in the box with the manuals and software-Win 3.10. I can't get a screen on this puppy... supposedly this creek worked a while back...I get a brief flash on boot, but that's it...no c: ..just vast darkness. I put in a floppy disk and watch for the led (or any evidence of a working floppy drive) nada...Case off...everything connected [apparently] correctly regarding pin 1 and such. I told the dude I'd help him build a new one and he could try to get his MIL's money ($50) back....You should see the huge ISA sound card Creative Blaster 16 with a sony CD-Rom connected to it {that explains the 5.25" sittin' in the cardboard box http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/smile.gif }

I'll spend some time looking I suppose, but I aint'a breakin' the back on this one....SO Ranch, if I figure this one out maybe I can have some reference to look for clues on your sit http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif iation

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mjc
07-09-2001, 09:06 PM
ranchdog,

Enter BIOS and either set the drive parameters manually or set the drive to autodetect...not sure what size would the max for that system but I'm betting it would be 2.1GB or less...maybe even 528MB, sometimes if the size is exceeded it won't recognize the drive, you'll either need the DDO software from the manufacturer's site or a new IDE controller card.

bassvax.

Does anything at all work, other than the brief flash?


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bassvax
07-09-2001, 09:22 PM
Thanks MJC

Yeah I hear the HD spin and the CD-ROM lights up a bit but that's it. I tried diff monitor, KB and mouse (separately) no diff.

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Paleo Pete
07-09-2001, 10:37 PM
Ranchdog: Can you say proprietary? http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

That's the father of all proprietary machines, as far as I know. PS/2 machines used a reference disk, and I assume the PS/1 did too, instead of a simple method of getting into BIOS. You might check the IBM PC File Library (http://www.pc.ibm.com/us/files.html) and see if it can be found there. Also check my page, and take a look at the Obsolete Computer Museum Help Forums, might be worth popping a question in there to see if someone knows where to find more. They deal with those old dinosaurs all the time.

Bassvax: First thing I'd suspect is the video card. If it has a blue tab on the end with IBM molded into it, it's a MCA card, very difficult to find, and it will probably have to be the exact same one to work, at least until you can get video and run a reference disk.

I also suspect problems related to the CD ROM. Pull the sound card and CD ROM and see if it gets a picture. I have a Panasonic interface CD ROM here that will do the exact same thing if it's plugged into an IDE controller. It might just be plugged into the wrong controller, I think the Creative cards have 3. One is Sony, one Panasonic and the other I'm not sure about.

In any case, you'll need to get the reference disk if possible...

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ranchdog
07-09-2001, 10:37 PM
MJC You The Man. Why didn't I think of that? (HDD capacity less than abt. 2.1) I tried to keep it less than 6 giggers -- Throw a Boot Disk in it and fdisk. Then get happy with Uncle Bill. Seems like it had a .850 + or - a few MB unit in it. I whizzed it to the dumpster. Now I have to ease into my spare room and look thru all my Paleo Pete Vintage "stuff." Find me some real hardware. I don't know what most of that even does. I know I'll have another IDE Controller card if needed. And a 2G HDD. Thanking You. Conquer this one I'll repair the PI with the Turbo Unit. So don't go to far away.!

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ranchdog
07-09-2001, 10:52 PM
http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/eek.gif That word's got to many syllables in it for me. Pete ya force me to get out the J.D.

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ranchdog
07-10-2001, 08:34 AM
b.v. Your problem may also be with the way things are wired up presently. I caused the exact same problem the other day on a unit I was building. I tried to wire up an extra case fan. Plugged it into a 4 pin pass thru connector that came off the Floppy harness and bingo. Your unit has been changed around a little so a guy may have to unplug everything but the Mboard and sort out the plug-in stuff's. Good Luck Budro.

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