Basic networking

[paul_barr]

Hi Geeks

Can you help me/
I want to connect two Win95 Pc's together, if I have an RJ45 10Mbps network card in each can I just hook them up? or do I need a hub, I should know this but it's been a while since I did any of this.
If so what protocol do you suggest for basic networking TCP/IP?

Also Q2.. My Laptop ( which is one of the PC's) CD has broken and I can't modify windows settings without annoying requests for the CD, I seem to remember years ago a line in a setup file someplace that you can change so that it asks for the floppies ( I have these also)

Also Also Q3 if I get that far once I have basic networking and can file and printer share ( yes I can do that bit) then can I share Internet resourses? does that depend on the protocol?

A few pointers would be appreciated, I'll figure the rest out

Thanks

P

[skhips]

You can connect 2 PC's without using a hub by crossing the following wires on your CAT 5 cable.

END 1 END 2
1 = 3
2 = 6
3 = 1
4 = 4
5 = 5
6 = 2
7 = 7
8 = 8

So basically wires 1 and 2 should cross with 3 and 6
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[skhips]

As long as the PC that has the internet connected is Win98 SE at least you can share the connection with a PC running Win 95 or 98.

Always wait for a few replys to see other peoples ideas as their are a lot of people here that have a lot of knowledge here particulary on this subject and may have different or better suggestions.

If in doubt just give a shout.

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[Paleo Pete]

For the networking itself, TCP/IP is the most difficult to configure, NetBEUI is the simplest. The cable referred to is called a crossover cable, usually available in computer shops or retail outlets. Internet connection sharing works with any of the networking protocols.

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[paul_barr]

Thanks Skhips and Paleo pete

You say that either protocol will support internet sharing, does that mean that 2x95 will work or do I need 1x98se and 1x95?


Don't suppose either of you can remember the change to the ini files to load from floppies?

[sea69]

hi,

to use ICS-(Internet Connection Sharing) as far as I know you need win98 on the host computer.

with two win95 machines you can do the following:

Requirements
Win95 on your office and home computers Microsoft File and Print Sharing on your office and home computers Internet Access from Home and Office machines Your Windows 95 CD-ROM, diskettes, or other access to Windows 95 media.

Note: Some machines have already had this functionality added by CSD. You may wish to verify the settings and note step 2 in the Microsoft File and Print Share section. 1. Bring up the Network Control Panel by, clicking 'Start' -> 'Settings' -> 'Control Panel' -> 'Network' 2. Click on 'TCP/IP' to select the protocol, and then select 'Properties'. 3. Under the 'WINS Configuration' tab, then select 'Enable WINS Resolution' 4. In the 'Primary WINS Server' text entry field, enter '131.202.3.25'. In the Secondary WINS Server' text entry field, enter '131.202.3.27', 5. Select 'Ok' to return the Network Control Panel. 6. If you have an entry in the Network Control Panel called 'File and Print Sharing for NetWare Networks', select it by clicking on it once, and click 'Remove'. 7. If you have any entry in the Network Control Panel called 'NetBEUI', select it by clicking on it once, and click 'Remove'. Adding MS File and Print Sharing 1. If you do not have an entry called 'Client for Microsoft Networks', click 'Add' -> 'Service' -> 'Microsoft' -> 'File and Print Sharing for Microsoft Networks'. 2. In the Network Control Panel, under the 'Identification' tab, take notice of the name of the computer. This is the name you must use later, when referring to your computer. 3. In the Network Control Panel, under the 'Access Control' tab, click 'Share Level' and click 'Ok' 4. The computer will prompt you to reboot after possibly copying some files. Do so.

Configuring Your Home Computer
1. Click 'Start' -> 'Settings' -> 'Control Panel' -> 'Network'. 2. Your Network Control Panel should contain two entries... 'Dial-up Adapter', and 'TCP/IP'. 3. Click 'Add' -> 'Service' -> 'Microsoft' -> 'File and printer sharing for Microsoft Networks' 4. Click on 'TCP/IP' once, and then select 'Properties'. 5. Under the 'WINS Configuration', click on 'Enable WINS Resolution', 6. Under 'Primary WINS Server' type '131.202.3.25'. Under 'Secondary WINS Server' type in '131.202.3.27', and then click 'Ok'. 7. Click 'Ok' again, on the main Network Control Panel window, and respond 'Yes' when the computer asks to be rebooted. Again, you will likely be asked for Windows 95 media, such as the CD-ROM or floppies.


Testing Your Setup
Office Computer: 1. In your office, open 'My Computer' -> 'Drive C:' and select a folder where you keep your documents (sometimes C:\data), 2. Right click on the folder and select 'Sharing'. In the window that comes up, click 'Shared As:' 3. In the 'Share Name:' text entry field, give the share a name. By default it is named the name of the folder you are sharing, however, you can give it more descriptive names. 4. In the 'Access type' field, select 'Read-only' if you would like to be only able to read and copy files from this location to home. Select 'Full' if you would like to be able to read/write, delete, and change files in this location from home. 5. Select 'Depends on password' to be able to give out two passwords to other people that you want to be able to use the files in this locations. If they type in the read-only password, they will only get read access level. If they type in the full-access password, they will read and write access level. 6. If you want to password protect this folder so that only people who know the password will be allowed to access the files, then do so in the 'Passwords' section. 7. It is highly recommended that you put passwords on your folders. (See Who Can Access My Shared Devices below) 8. When you are finished putting in information about this share, select 'Ok'. 9. Be sure to leave your computer powered ON, and logged in, if you wish to be able to access it from home. At home: 1. Select 'Start' -> 'Find' -> 'Computer...'. 2. In the window that appears, type in the name of your computer at the office, and click 'Find Now'. 3. The window will then change to list all computers that it has found with the name you specified. Hopefully this list will only be your computer. 4. Double click on the icon for the computer, and you should see the name of the folder you shared. 5. Double click on the folder, you will then have access to the files inside that folder. The same sorts of sharing can be done with printers, hard drives, folders, floppy drives, cd-rom drives, jazz and zip drives.


What You Cannot Access
1. Software on the Novell servers, such as Word Perfect, or other such software. 2. Your Novell F: or other shared Novell drives.


Who Can Access Your Shared Devices
1. If you have applied a password during the sharing procedure , only persons knowing that password will have access to the shared local resource 2. Persons registered with UNB's WINS server and knowing the name of your computer - if they know your password 3. Persons on the internet who know your IP address - if they know your password 4. It is recommended that highly confidential information NOT be shared

as for your win95 floppies, you can XCopy the cab files to a seperate partition for future use.


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[This message has been edited by sea69 (edited 08-11-2001).]