View Full Version : Carrier IQ privacy flap
12-01-2011, 01:01 AM
Researcher Trevor Eckhart finds a non disclosed program running in the background on his smartphone. He goes public with the finding and is immediately sued by CarrierIQ for "copyright infringement" until EFF (Electronic Freedom Foundation) steps in. Now CIQ reversed direction, drops the lawsuit and issues a public apology,
The CIQ program allows tracking almost everything on a non-rooted smartphone and delivers that info to the wireless provider to "allow the provider to improve service"...per the program developer.
It allows much more per the researcher.
There is a YouTube clip by the researcher, a bit dry but if you watch it you will see how intrusive the program can be.
12-01-2011, 03:25 AM
Well done EFF (https://www.eff.org/).
Isn't it amazing how the initial response by CarrierIQ was to go on the offensive and in no minor way?
Why bother fighting spyware/malware, any longer when crap like this is being passed off as 'legit'?
That's one more reason, for me, at least NOT to have a 'smart' phone...(well connectivity issues are a bigger one...in other words, it still sucks around here).
12-01-2011, 08:06 AM
Yet another reason to root.
12-03-2011, 04:20 AM
You should still be asked to opt-in for this to run, imho. and you should be able to force close/get rid of it if you wish.
12-03-2011, 05:56 AM
I don't find CarrierIQ's picked researcher to be believable, he admits to "not knowing code" but makes some statements that agree with their initial positions.
In the meantime carriers are running away from the software (Verizon claims it is not installed on the phones on their network), Congress is investigating, class-action lawsuits are filed already, and Apple is saying a software update will quickly remove it from all but iPhone 4.
12-03-2011, 06:40 AM
It's all just about as indefensible as the Sony rootkit issue, when it erupted.
Security on smart phones and tablets (and mobile/wifi internet in general) does certainly seem to be patchy at the very least. In a way these devices remind me very much of Microsoft's ethos over the years. Get selling the latest bling out there ASAP and leave security to be the last thing to be considered.
It (pun on IT) is a jungle out there and has a long way to run before it will be a truly safe environment - if ever..
12-03-2011, 10:19 AM
Yet another reason to root.
Woohoo! Rooted my HTC Thunderbolt a few weeks back.
Anyone else notice that they put a marketing guy in charge of defending CIQ?
Like this is just a little bad press and people just don't understand...
12-03-2011, 02:57 PM
CarrierIQ's own marketing documents are in conflict with their limited functionality defense:
and one of the documents on the CarrierIQ website:
Great, even the marketing weenies can't agree on exactly what it is...
I smell another CueCat or is that the Gator stench I smell?
12-16-2011, 03:36 PM
The wireless telecoms are starting to release the numbers of phones with this stuff running on their networks.
30 million phones have this stuff
12-16-2011, 06:19 PM
And Sprint has asked their phone hardware providers to remove Carrier IQ from the phones via updates:
12-16-2011, 06:50 PM
They should pull a Bill Gates and claim it's an integral part of the software drivers...
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