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ImScaredAhh
03-29-2012, 11:42 AM
Ok so i'm down to these two:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834246328

Or

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Asus+-+15.6%26%2334%3B+laptop+-+4GB+Memory+-+500GB+Hard+Drive+-+Matte+Dark+Brown+Suit/4854891.p?skuId=4854891&id=1218554266972

I'm trying to get something that will run some games here and there like SC2, Mass Effect 3 etc. even if it's on low-med settings. But I will mainly be using this computer for work, school, web-surfing, youtubing, and my daughter does a lot of flash based math games, etc.

I'm mainly trying to decide between the AMD A6-3420M that came out about 4 months ago or the Intel i5 2450M that just came out about 3 months ago. The Lenovo has 6 gigs of RAM and a video card with dedicated RAM, although i'm sure its no 560ti or better, I'm also sure its better than the built in HD 3000 graphics. But the AMD processor is slower? has 4 cores, the intel has 2 cores but 4 threads.

I guess basically what I'm asking is why is the AMD processor significantly "slower" at 1.50GHz? Will that make it "slower" or equivalent to a i5 with less ram and no dedicated video card?

Any useful information on how to compare AMD processors to Intel would be useful, even any links I could read would be appreciated.

Also if it was you doing the tasks I mentioned above with some light gaming, which computer would you choose and why? I would love to get a desktop as the bang for the buck would be better, but I need the laptop for work and unfortunately I can't carry my desktop around :P Thanks in advance!

(Also sorry if I posted this in the wrong place.)

hackerballs
03-29-2012, 03:03 PM
Welcome new member...this is the right place for your post:

I would be suprised if either of these laptops would play Mass Effect 3 well. The first one is too slow and the second one has sucky graphics

I would also be looking at the 4 cell battery the ASUS has..............the Lenovo has a 6 cell although the Asus says it last longer than the Lenovo

http://www.notebook4game.com/web/pagevga.php compare notebook graphics here

Bottom line:
stick to surfing the web and office and forget about gaming. You will play light games, as these are not gaming laptops for $500. I would buy the Asus as it is faster and the RAM will not make a difference between 4g and 6g. And as either of these will not play games great, the cpu speed and battery should be considered next.

If you like to game..........save up for a desktop or spend mega money on a gaming laptop like this

http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/07/sandy-bridge-e-squashed-into-3000-clevo-p270wm-gaming-suitcase/

ImScaredAhh
03-29-2012, 08:20 PM
So you'd recommend the Asus based on raw power(except for games)?

I did some reading on 4-cell batteries and supposedly they only last 1.5-2 hours depending on power settings, is this true? I'm gonna go off that since I assume manufacturers blow their real numbers up by setting the screen to some low brightness and set the power settings to turtle.

Anyways most of the time I'll probably be hooked up to the wall wherever I am.

hackerballs
03-29-2012, 08:58 PM
they claim 5 hours? doubt it also..................I like the Asus better

http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10365658&whse=BCCA&Ne=4000000&eCat=BCCA|84|22497&N=4011462&Mo=52&No=48&Nr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&cat=22497&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-CA&Sp=C&topnav=

I found this at Costco which would be the better of all of them acer aspire for $499

hackerballs
03-29-2012, 09:03 PM
sry, the store did not follow through...........anyways, Costco has an Acer Aspire that is with better graphics i3 2350m @ 2.3ghz 15.6" 6 gigs RAM 500HDD 6 cell lithium intel HD 3000 graphics Windows 7 x 64 2 year warrenty and being that it's Costco..........anytime

ImScaredAhh
03-29-2012, 09:36 PM
How is the i3-2350m with intel HD 3000 graphics better than the i5-2450m also with intel HD 3000 graphics?

Intel i5-2450m (http://ark.intel.com/products/53452/Intel-Core-i5-2450M-Processor-%283M-Cache-2_50-GHz%29)

saphalline
03-30-2012, 12:29 AM
You will buy the Lenovo. Here is why:

The graphics in the Lenovo are far superior. Radeon HD 6650M (http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD-6650M.43962.0.html) vs Intel HD 3000 (http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-HD-Graphics-3000.37948.0.html). The 6650M pulls in 3412 for a GPU score in 3DMark Vantage while the HD 3000 can only muster 1390. This makes the 6650M roughly 2.45 times more powerful in terms of gaming graphics, which means that if the 6650M can push a game at 30fps the HD 3000 will only manage 12fps. Quite significant!

The CPU in the Asus is far superior, but a Sandy Bridge Core i5 is also way overkill for what you want to do. The i5 in my laptop is not even close to being able to stretch its legs in games because of the limitation that the HD graphics places on the system. Only virt'ing pushes it enough to break a sweat. In terms of productivity tasks, the i5 will be faster, but the A6-3420M is still "fast enough". At 1.5 GHz base with up to 2.4 GHz Turbo Core and 4 true cores, the A6 will chew through just about anything, regardless of the fact that the i5 is faster. You would probably be buying yourself some TDP headroom with the dedicated graphics, too, so the Turbo Core just might go a bit farther.

4-cell batteries are indeed really only good for about 2 hours, give or take. By the time you realize that the dimmest screen setting is too dark to read in a well-lit room, the wireless activity from merely surfing the web has already eaten 30%. 6-cell batteries last much longer relative to how often you would want to seek out an outlet (~3.5 hours) while 9-cell batteries are the good ones (~5.5-7 hours).

The big downside to the Lenovo is the fact that it only has 10/100 Ethernet vs the Acer's GbE. There is also the unfortunate configuration of a 4GB stick of RAM mixed with a 2GB stick, which nearly kills dual-channel memory. But overall, what can you expect for $500? There was once a time when $500 laptops did not even exist! And now you can buy one that has dedicated graphics. All in all, not a bad deal for your budget.

But of course, if you were willing to move up to $650, everything changes... ;)