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kiosk
04-06-2012, 11:35 PM
I need a new computer with a powerful FPU for number crunching/CAD work, and I'm going to go with Intel. Now, I'm seeing this all new and spectacular "Socket 2011" interface and I'm dumbfounded as to who is willing to pay upwards of $1000 for the processor alone and that's not even counting the mainboards which are very dear as well.

Am I missing something important? There's no way I'm gonna shell out $2000 for a computer, so I'll just go with Socket 1155 and a nice quad core i7.

Is S2011 going to become an orphan technology like Socket 8; pricing itself out of the market?

Another thing, are there chipsets which can handle two PCIex16 cards running together at full speed; i.e. without dropping down to 8x speed?

123456
04-06-2012, 11:59 PM
Socket 2011 is so last year.

rond36
04-07-2012, 05:05 AM
Socket 2011 is to socket 1155 as socket 1366 was to socket 1156. If you want a high-end sandybridge-E or 8-core ivybridge you better have a socket 2011 motherboard.

The Asus P9X79 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131804) supports 2 PCIe 3.0 X16 cards @ X16 and is only $260

Intel Core i7-3930K Sandy Bridge-E 3.2GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 2011 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116492) $600
or
Intel Core i7-3820 Sandy Bridge-E 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 2011 130W Quad-Core Desktop Processor (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115229) $310

Eight-core socket 2011 CPUs for desktops are not too far off, they have been released in the server market and may even work on a desktop board!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100008494+600303512+600048545&QksAutoSuggestion=&ShowDeactivatedMark=False&Configurator=&IsNodeId=1&Subcategory=727&description=&hisInDesc=&Ntk=&CFG=&SpeTabStoreType=&AdvancedSearch=1&srchInDesc=



Note: If you are using PCIe 3.0 cards on a motherboard with PCIe 3.0 slots, PCIe 3.0 X16 @ X8 has the same bandwidth as PCIe 2.0 X16 @ X16 because the PCIe 3.0 data rate is twice as fast as PCIe 2.0

kiosk
04-07-2012, 08:46 AM
Intel Core i7-3820 Sandy Bridge-E 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 2011 130W Quad-Core Desktop Processor (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115229) $310


This one seems reasonable, other processors in this segment are downright absurdly dear. Unfortunately the store I'm buying from carries only two S2011 processors (i7-3820 being one of them) and have only two boards in stock; one from Asrock and other from MSI, both of which don't seem too trustworthy to me.
I have some debt to pay off, in three months of time I'll be out of the red and with plenty of cash to buy a computer. Prices are probably going to drop by then and the board selection is going to go up as well.

It's funny how S2011 is a completely standard intel product! Intel knows that out there there's a certain someone with a thick and itchy wallet who yearns for the fastest processor money could buy. They did this with 386-16, then with Pentium 66, and countless times since. One of S2011 processors that sells in my shop has an asking price of about $1500. Whoever buys that processor should get a "I love myself" jacket and a nice government-paid vacation in a mental health clinic... :eek:

rond36
04-07-2012, 01:17 PM
The Core i7-3960X Extreme Edition Sandy Bridge-E 3.3GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 2011 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor costs $1049 at Newegg.
If the store where you get parts is selling it for $1500 I would not buy it or anything else from them.

I would not buy an Asrock motherboard but depending on the specs the MSI board should be good.

Which MSI board?

Some socket 2011 boards only have 4 DIMM slots and support quad-channel memory, so that means all 4 memory slots must be filled with the same size and speed DIMMs for the memory to work properly.


Intel knows that out there there's a certain someone with a thick and itchy wallet who yearns for the fastest processor money could buy.
I resemble that remark LOL :D

My next upgrade:

ASUS Z9PE-D8 WS Dual LGA 2011 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131817)
and 2
Intel Xeon E5-2687W Sandy Bridge-EP (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117272)

kiosk
04-07-2012, 01:41 PM
The Core i7-3960X Extreme Edition Sandy Bridge-E 3.3GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 2011 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor costs $1049 at Newegg.
If the store where you get parts is selling it for $1500 I would not buy it or anything else from them.


I'm from Croatia, SE Europe; I have a membership card in this store so I get a 10% discount on everything - their prices are actually pretty good but high-end parts which are hard to move command insane prices.

Here is a list of their s2011 processors (all two of them!)

http://www.links.hr/?option=katList&id_kategorija=05060618&naziv=socket-2011

i7-3820 retails for 2549 Croatian Kuna (447$), while i7-3960x goes for mind-boggling 7999 Kuna (1403$)!! :eek:
These prices are actually very competitive in my town - other stores actually charge MORE for these parts. No wonder nobody buys these processors, they are too expensive for most people to even consider. 1400$ is three months' worth of average salary in Croatia! :eek:




I would not buy an Asrock motherboard but depending on the specs the MSI board should be good.

Which MSI board?


http://www.links.hr/?option=katList&id_kategorija=05030620&naziv=socket-2011-mbo

These four mainboards are available, at least, in theory. I don't know which one I should pick. Got any idea as to which one should I go for, I don't care for the price of the mainboard - experience has taught me that pinching pennies on the mainboard will turn and bite you in the ass when it's time to upgrade, or they carry a subtle gotcha which will cost me even more money in the long run.

rond36
04-08-2012, 09:14 AM
ASUS P9X79 with 8 DIMM slots and 2 PCIe X16 @ X16 would be my first choice.

The GIGABYTE GA-X79-UD3 and the MSI X79A-GD45 with 4 DIMM slots would be good too but you would be limited on the amount of RAM you can install.