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apercen17
02-08-2002, 02:20 AM
I have a dial up modem on a Windows 98 system and I want to know how to change a setting. When going to My Computer--->Dial-Up-Networking--->(my internet provider)---->properties---->Configure---->Connection; at this point there is a check mark box with "Disconnect call if idle for more than ---- mins. What I would like to know if there is a way to set the disconnection time into seconds instead of minutes
diurnal
02-08-2002, 04:22 AM
Try www.download.com (http://www.download.com) and go to internet downloads and scour threw those downloads , should be some sort of program that will let you do this.
Cya
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I would like to know why you want to drop the time down to seconds....do you realize that if you drop it to 30seconds then you would have that long to read a page and then click to the next thing or the connection would dropped and you will have to redial?
The idle time is basically when ever you are not actively downloading sometihing (like a new web page), uploading, or some other deinite task.....most people try to either disable the stting or strtch it ti its max .
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apercen17
02-09-2002, 01:22 AM
the reason I would like to set it to seconds is during the day I would like to download a huge file(for a modem that is) and should someone call I would have the seconds set to the amount I wished(probably around 5 or so) that way it disconnects so I can talk to whomoever on the phone when they call.
Check this Call Waiting and Modem FAQ (http://www.56k.com/reports/callwait.shtml). You may find a solution that meets your need.
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rond36
02-09-2002, 04:13 AM
should someone call I would have the seconds set to the amount I wished(probably around 5 or so) that way it disconnects so I can talk to whomoever on the phone when they call. Unless you have call waiting and it is enabled and a MODEM that is capable of using it all the calling party is going to get is a busy signal it doesn't matter what the setting is set to 5 sec or 5 hrs all the same busy signal till the download is finished and you disconnect from the internet. If tieing up the phone line is that much of a problem get broadband.
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Paul Komski
02-09-2002, 07:14 AM
I would think that all you need is a modem with the new v92 protocol. These should be able to knock you off line and allow the incoming call to ring the telephone, even if the ISP hasn't yet upgraded to v92. When/if the ISP upgrades, you will be able to keep the dial-up connection as well, for however long the ISP allows.
Upgrading an existing software modem may be possible but looks difficult to do and doesn't work with all chipsets. INFO HERE (http://modemsite.com/56k/callwait.asp?sc=3%3A04%3A47+AM)
I am in a similar position and am about to buy one of these newer v92 modems. You might like to check a couple of threads from this forum HERE (http://www.pcguide.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000029.html) and HERE (http://www.pcguide.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/000852.html) and also read-up on Call Waiting Issues in the PCGuide (http://www.pcguide.com/ts/x/comp/modem/wait.htm)
Good Luck - and if you find a good solution please post back.
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Vic 970
02-09-2002, 07:35 AM
saw some progs a while back that perport to be able to do this, one was a demo version but I didn't manage to install it. You'd also need a prog (like d/l express) with resume support to save losing your d/l.
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Paul Komski
02-09-2002, 10:53 AM
Hi Vic I found the website for Download Express (http://www.metaproducts.com/DE.html) and may give it a try. I have been using Download Accelerator Plus (http://www.speedbit.com/) which resumes just fine and it's free too - but I just love trying new things out! http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/wink.gif
...saw some progs a while back that perport to be able to do this...
Do you know if these progs upgrade a software modem or are they standalone pieces of software? Would be most interested to try some of them out, either way, if you can dig up where to find any of them. http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/cool.gif
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bassman
02-09-2002, 11:13 AM
Hello Apercen17 and Welcome,
You have been given some good things to look at that sound to be more along the lines of what you want to do.
Here is a more direct answer to your Q. From the "Properties" dialog box, go to "Dialing" tab, at the bottom of this is where you can set the parameters for "Idle disconnect".
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Apercen17,
What modem do you have? Do you have call waiting?
Like has been mentioned before in order for it to work you need to have call waiting on you phone and you need a resumable download manager (otherwise you would be starting from the beginning each time you reconnect). Some of the download managers allow you to scedule and stop the download for unattended downloading (like overnight), so you can shedule it to start at like 11pm and run to 6am, then stop, hang-up, and even shut down the computer......
Alot of modems do offer some support for call waiting, but it is spotty at best, you just need to make sure that you have not turned it it off in dialing properties, and many modems will drop the connection after about 15 or more rings. On some modems you can adjust the number of rings to a lower number by issuing an AT command in the extra settings line in the modem's properties box...to figure out the correct commands you need to know the command set your modem recognizes.......detailed in Reid's link...(and to tell you the truth that method works much better with a "softmodem" or "winmodem"...internal PCI, than with an external hardware modem).
There are also external devices that are supposed to be able to route an incoming call without disturbing the current connection...Catch-A-Call (http://www.catch-a-call-online.com/)
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apercen17
02-09-2002, 01:51 PM
well I have a HSP56 MicroModem I think and I have two phone lines and I also have a download resumer dilly to resumed unfinished downloads.
Vic 970
02-09-2002, 02:31 PM
Hi Paul,
I used to use accelerator, but I got probs with it, also I heard that it contains spyware so I changed to Express.
Found a few links for you to try..,,,
http://www.infolets.com/953264183/
http://www.buzme.com/buzme/default.asp
this one,s free
http://www.smartnetlinks.com/callwave.html
free trial here
http://pub7.ezboard.com/fpostitfreeclassifiedscomputerssoftware.showMessag e?topicID=37.topic
subscription (I think)
http://www.itrings.com/Home.asp?Partner=DotNow
freestuff !! http://www.freestuff-place.com/free_office-supplies.php
this one's usa & canada only (I think this was something like the one I tried)
one in here http://www.freestuffshare.com/software.phtml but I can't find it
all found on google, search string 'never miss a call again' let us know how you go on, I haven't got time to try them at the moment.
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Paul Komski
02-09-2002, 05:04 PM
apercen17 If you have two phone lines, do you need this facility? Could you not get one line to divert to the other number if you need to be able to take calls on both lines all the time?
Vic Hey man thanks for all the searching. They all seem to be N.American Subscription Services! http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/frown.gif The gimmick is to advertise them as "free" but the only thing that is free is the software download to set the service up on your pc. They all effectively work by Call-forwarding on busy (which would have to be available from your telecom). There may be some in the UK but none (that I know of) in Ireland.
mjc Now that's the sort of hardware I was after (if it works http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/wink.gif of course). But with v92 modems now coming on the scene my money might be better spend on a new modem. Mmmmmmmm... of course one advantage would be that they could be transported from office to office or pc to pc with no software installation etc. Don't know how you found it - I've bin looking everywhere - but then you really are a bit of genius! http://www.beenzeria.com/coolgleama.gif
[This message has been edited by Paul Komski (edited 02-09-2002).]
diurnal
02-09-2002, 08:24 PM
Dont double post questions on these forums!!!
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apercen17
02-09-2002, 08:55 PM
ah yes Paul Komski when I said I have two phone lines I meant to say I have call-waiting. I think that makes sense.... (I'm having troubles comprehending what you replied) [I]by the way I searched through www.download.com (http://www.download.com) but I did not find any program suitable to myself but perhaps to others. If someone finds a prog or has an idea of how to auto-disconnect if someone calls; or set a dial-up-modem to auto-disconnect a few seconds later after their connection status remains dormant when someone is calling(because of a noise hit to the phone line[I/]
Paul Komski
02-09-2002, 09:36 PM
apercen17 To have two simultaneous connections (using CallWaiting) on a single phone line (the actual outside connection) is not the same as having two "phone lines" (two connections with two different tel. numbers) which is what I thought you had meant by having two phone lines.
As you have call-waiting you should be able to solve your problem (a) by getting a v92 compatible modem or upgrading to v92 if possible, (b) by signing up to one of the services that will inform your pc when a call is incoming, (c) by getting hardware to sit between your pc and the wall-jack (like that which mjc gave a link to), (d) possibly by modifying your AT sting as in PCGuide/ModemTroubleshooting or (e) by getting broadband or a second telephone number. For most of these you should not temporarily disable call-waiting at the time you dial-up and for (b) your telecom provider must support call-forwarding-on-busy.
diurnal I tried looking for the double-post to see if there were any useful replies in the duplicated post but couldn't find it. Any idea where it is?
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