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steveo
10-31-2001, 03:57 PM
hi folks...I keep getting emailed over and over these past 18hrs or so. It's always from the same sender and always has a attachment. There's always a little blurb with it that says, "I could use your advice with this" or to that effect. My friend got the same kind of thing a few months ago and he opened it. I ended up having to format his HD a few days later. I have traced and whois this fellow and have the info but what to do with it, that is the question.

Rick
10-31-2001, 04:18 PM
1St donít open .
You can send a complaint to the persons ISP about them using their site for spam or transferring a virus.

Delete it then using your mail programs filtering feature.
Block that person and or any other mail from that site.
In most cases the filter will just delete it from the server every time it sees the address

You may also like to know that a few of the trojan and scripts that infest the web today can read a persons address book and forward a copy of it self to each person on your address book.

This may explain why you keep getting the thing.
If your name is on a persons mail list or address book and they have a virus.
It will continue to send you the message till the person with the virus/trojan gets rid of it



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Lucias_Clay
11-01-2001, 12:04 AM
And remember not all viruses require opening an attachment ie; Nimba.
so be sure all your patches are current and you have a good a/v installed and running and be wary of mail from people you don't know and fwds from people you do. A good idea might be to have people that forward email add a note in the subject line to let you know they actually sent it to you??

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steveo
11-01-2001, 01:15 AM
thanks to those who replied!

sea69
11-01-2001, 10:49 AM
to expand on Rick and Lucias's comments (which were very correct.

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When you say you have traced the individual... do you mean the one that sent it to you??....... or the original sender??

If you can through Outlook Ex or Outlook: right click properties>> Details TAB>> Message source. See how far back you can trace it to the initiator (is that a word??)

if and when you find this generally the email should be "abuse@???"

(???= name of ISP)

also- as was pointed out, this will keep on sending out to all addresses in any infected computers book. To arrest this action by the virus: open address book and create a new entry>> name the new entry "0000" (without quotes) and DO NOT assign it an email address.

Thereafter, if a trojan/script is executed to mail everyone and you are unaware of it's existence, youe email (OE or Outlook) will "hang" on the 1st address that it attempts to send out>> "0000">> is the first - and it has no address to send to.

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Paleo Pete
11-02-2001, 11:39 PM
Check Here (http://www.pcguide.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000214.html) it sounds like the same virus.

Information (http://spam.abuse.net/howtocomplain.html) on how to look up the sender and report it to the originating ISP.
Tracking Spam (http://www.claws-and-paws.com/spam-l/tracking.html)
Reading Email Headers (http://www.uic.edu/depts/accc/newsletter/adn29/headers.html)

By using methods similar to those described in these sites I've assisted in having at least 30 spammers' Internet accounts shut down. It won't stop spam, but it may help slow it down...

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steveo
11-03-2001, 05:28 AM
thanks for the info pete, appreciate it.

in the course of 30 hrs I got around 30 emails from this fellow then it stopped. Don't know why it stopped or how I got on the list. I rarely use email and this is the only forum I've joined.

Vic 970
11-03-2001, 06:20 AM
Hi Folks,

I have seen this address book tactic quoted before, & it seems to me that it would do well to advertise it in the same way as the virus spreads, which would do a lot towards preventing people being infected & passing it on to their friends.

eg: if we each send an e-mail to all persons in Our address book thus..,
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subject = virus prevention.

message =

I have just taken a simple course of action that will prevent certain viruses from attacking your PC by way of my PC in the event of my PC becoming affected.

exp: A virus will 'get hold' & spread by infecting your address book and sending itself out by e-mail. This will keep on sending out to all addresses in any infected computers book. You would catch it this way, by being in someone elses address book

To arrest this action by the virus: open address book and create a new entry>> name the new entry "0000" (without quotes) and DO NOT assign it an email address.

Thereafter, if a virus is executed to mail everyone and you are unaware of it's existence, you're e-mail (Outlook Express or Outlook) will "hang" on the 1st address that it attempts to send out>> ie: "0000">> which is the first - and it has no address to send to.

As I said I have already done this to help prevent anyone (including you) in my address book becoming infected.

Please do the above to protect the people in your adress book, then copy & paste this whole letter & send it to all in your address book so that they can do the same.
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pinched your words there sean (with a little editing) but I'm sure you won't mind.


This 'chain letter' approach could hopefully reduce the spread of some viruses, what do you think?




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sea69
11-03-2001, 10:02 AM
I think this would work best if sent individually to everyone you know.. or at least to people like me. The reason being that I generally will auto-delete without reading any broadcast emails.

oh, thanks for not repeating my spelling errors...

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edit: I cannot take credit for this idea, I didn't think of it first, in fact I read it right here in pcguide, and want at any appropriate opp to pass it on to everyone.

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Vic 970
11-03-2001, 11:13 AM
I agree sean. I have just sent it out individuallyto some of my friends.

All credit to whoever idea it was.

Your explanation summed it up just right!

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YODA74
11-03-2001, 05:10 PM
Also would you have to put it in whom ever else's outlook address book who uses your computer or just in the main contacts??

and will you have to keep it in asending order for it to be the first address that it see's "0000" being the first address not third or fourth if I'm understanding this right? http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif parden me I'm a little thick sometimes http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/wink.gif

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Vic 970
11-04-2001, 08:03 AM
As far as I'm aware address book will only list alphabetically, with the option of Ascending or Descending, numbers have priority over letters so '0000' therefore is at either the top or bottom of the list, (depending how it's set (ascending or Descending) most of us would have this set ascending, & I would asssume that e-mails would be sent that way, but if you wanted to be completely sure, do the same with the bottom of the list ie: 'zzzz'

As all address books are vulnerable, so all should be treated likewise.

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bassman
11-04-2001, 10:27 AM
Good point Yoda,
When I did this in my book, for some reason it put it second in line. I had to remove the first addy and redo it to get the order right(dang AOL http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif ).
Anyway, when I tell people about this, I make sure to tell them to be sure it is at the top of the list.
I think Vic's point is valid also. If these freaks who keep doing this figure out a way to make it look at the end of the address book, then you would have closed both doors. http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/wink.gif

EDIT: OH YEA, you should do it in all address books. Whoever gets the bug is the book it will look in.

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sea69
11-04-2001, 10:41 AM
try it as: "000" instead of "0000".

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YODA74
11-04-2001, 10:44 AM
Yup kinda what i figured but wanted to make sure, & the option for closing the back door to. THANKS http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif wow sea why 3 instead of 4 0's ??

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sea69
11-04-2001, 10:50 AM
one less character than AOL.

lol

I mean........... AOL is three characters, starting with the first letter of the alphabet. Perhaps this is why it was listed 1st after AOL.

(3 characters as opposed to 4)\

This is in fact how mine is "000", and I have plenty of AOL addys in my address book.

sorry for any confusion.. $@^#^$aol..!

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