Family Tree

[Lucias_Clay]

I remeber someone once said they were doing there family tree now who was that? What program(s) did you use? My sister and I are trying to track down some of the outlaws in ours. http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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[ranchdog]

Hey Lucius...

I've spent many hours tracing my family. First began by going to different librarys and using the geneology sections. And then later strictly using websites. Believe me Big Fella it is very interesting. Especially if a person is interested in history somewhat.

Websites, and there are quite a few, are the way to go. And I'm sure a google search by using geneology as a key word will bring up many.

Guess my favorites would have to be

www.familytreemaker.com (http://www.familytreemaker.com) www.myfamily.com (http://www.myfamily.com) and www.ancestory.com (http://www.ancestory.com)

Different websites have a Surname Bulletin Boards. Be sure and use these extensively. Others with your surname post tons of information.

Good Luck.

PS -- The Family Tree Maker site is the LDS archives in Salt Lake City. Man they have records you wouldn't believe. Birth..Death..Census..Marriage.



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[not_fred]

....be careful what you ask for. We found the Dalton gang hiding under one of our rocks http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/wink.gif

[Lucias_Clay]

Yes ranchdog I have been to two of those and gone through some of the bulliton boards, but some of the services you have to pay for and those are the ones I am wondering about. For example some charge for census info and others don't, but the more indepth searchs like marriage and birth are the hard ones if you don't already have most of the info already which is what these programs are supposed to supply, just wanting to get my monys worth. http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif I have been to the LDS site many times and found some great info.
not_fred haven't found any criminals yet. But as they say Insanity doesn't run in my family "it gallops" http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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[ranchdog]

Lucias....

I've refrained from using the pay to play stuff. Any thing they have will be posted somewhere by people who have bought these programs and there database information.

The only one that I may consider purchasing is FamilyTree Maker.

Luck. http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/smile.gif

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[Paleo Pete]

I am not a happy camper. I thought it might be interesting to have a look so I visited ancestry.com last night. Today I started receiving spam mail from them. Actually it came from a company called Blue Chip Brands Network, but being an advertisement for ancestry.com I hold the site ultimately responsible for the garbage mail I am now receiving. I sent them an email concerning this matter to let them know I do not like spam, and definitely will NOT be visiting ancestry.com again.

I did not put my email address into any form fields, they got it from a cookie. I checked their privacy policy, it states:

Ancestry.com Cookies:
Contrary to popular myth, cookies do not extract private or personal information from your computer’s memory, but rather, record only information you volunteer to us upon registering or visiting the site. Cookies are tiny files placed onto the hard drive of your computer when you register at our Web site that enable our server to recognize or "remember" who you are each time you return. Ancestry.com may make limited use of cookies to deliver content specific to your interests. For instance they may be used to retain your personal preferences, hold session information for a "shopping basket," or save your password so it doesn’t have to be re-entered each time you login.(italics mine)


They obviously use cookies for more than saving passwords and shopping baskets...

"Information you volunteer"???? I did not "volunteer" my email address so they could send me spam. They grabbed it from a cookie.

I do not hold anyone on the PC Guide Discussion Forums responsible for this, I doubt if the original poster could have known, or possibly did not connect the spam he might have gotten with cookies from the site. At any rate, I have no axe to grind with the individual who posted this topic, and wanted to make sure that was understood.

I will certainly not make the mistake of visiting that site again, I get enough spam already...



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[Lucias_Clay]

Paleo Pete I am sorry you had problems but I have to ancestry.com dozens of times and have never recieved any spam because of it, I know because I don't get ant spam really the only type of mail I recieve comes fom a site my wife visited and clicked on a link to recieve mail from them and thier sister sites I am starting to un-register with them this is the only mail of this type I get. I don't know how they got your addy but I can understand you frustration and anger. Even though I did not post the link I feel partially responsible hope you got them straightened out. But thanks for the warning we don't want anyone getting unwanted ads and junk in thier e-mail.You've really had a rough time lately what with all the viruses you've gotten you have my sympathy http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/frown.gif

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[ranchdog]

Very Strange....

I don't receive any spam junk mail after using the website in question.
Once in a while I'll get one that originates out of MSN. But that's the limit of my spam.

OE is nil. Hotmail comes thru if it's someone out of my address book. Otherwise it comes thru to the junk mail folder.



Sorry, pete.

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....How long is a minute... depends on which side of the Bathroom door you're on. ......Indecision may or may not be my problem......
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[YODA74]

SPAM Punisher

With the Spam Punisher, you can uncover the spammer’s ISP and automatically generate complaints. This is how it works. Launch your e-mail client. Select SPAM message (SPAM is unsolicited usually commercial e-mail message) that you want to process and choose File-Save As... command from menu. Save it to any location (example: c:\ spam.eml). Next launch SPAM Punisher. Press [Open] button and select previously saved SPAM message. After opening SPAM message you can see full message text (including message headers). Message route drop-down box at the bottom of the message text contains information about real route of the message (by IP). Entry point of message is marked as [1] - ***.***.***.*** and it is selected by default. Do not change this entry point when you are processing SPAM message for the first time. Press (Check this IP) button, check IP dialog appears on the screen. Then connect to the Internet and press [Check] button in this dialog. SPAM Punisher will connect to online IP database (this may take up to a minute). After download is finished you can see the results If the download was successful press [Close] button. Now you can see contact information of spammer’s ISP (Internet Service Provider). Contact information usually contains e-mail, phone, fax as well as postal address of the ISP. For your convenience SPAM Punisher automatically generates template of e-mail abuse if the contact information contains e-mail. To open this e-mail message press [Send abuse] button below the results window. If nothing happens when you press [Send abuse] button, SPAM Punisher automatically saves e-mail abuse template to the directory where you saved source SPAM message. This file is named abuse000.eml. To open this message in your e-mail client just drag and drop this file to Drafts (or Outbox) folder of your e-mail client. Press Reply All button (if you are using Outlook Express as your default e-mail client). Then press Send button. When ISP receives your message he will check if this SPAM was sent through his mail system. If it does, he will take appropriate measures (For example, close Internet access to spammer, so he will no more annoy you. ISP’s usually don’t like spammers). ISP will send you notification if it is necessary. Though SPAM Punisher is commercial program available for a price, the author has written a special freeware version for Lockergnomes. You can download it from http://biosolutions.hypermart.net/spamp10b.zip

I do not know what the hell a lockergnome is it just came with the reast of it so lets not take it personal.

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[not_fred]

Yoda;

I'm pretty sure a Lockergnome is kissin' cousin to a Humchucker.

[kenja]

I didn't see a definition, but looks like a bunch of good info at lockergnome.com (http://www.lockergnome.com/).

I'm not into geneology, but my dad has been for many years. I forget the program he presently uses (and it's too late tonight to call him). He chose the program because of its good ability to cite references. If you can't point to the source of your information, it really doesn't have much value.

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[ranchdog]

RE: My previous post.

My ISP is evidently giving more assistance with the spam problem than I give credit for.

Ron.. Excellent point in regards to source of information. Geneology cannot become a guessing game or the whole search becomes futile. If you can would you post the program your Father uses?

www.rootsweb.com (http://www.rootsweb.com) is another site I also use.

Luck.

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[CCmouse]

Have lots of fun in your ancestral endeavors http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/smile.gif

I highly recommend Family Origins (http://formalsoft.com/) for a genealogy software program. Easy to learn and lots of areas to customize entries the way YOU want them and price is reasonable. If you are looking for a freebie program you might like the LDS site's (http://www.familysearch.com/) Personal Ancestral File. Better yet read what others have to say at <A HREF="http://www.mumford.ab.ca/reportcard/index.htm" TARGET=_blank>The Genealogical Software
Report Card</A>.

While several above posts mention the LDS site, none appear to have the correct link. Again it is http://www.familysearch.com/. They are NOT affiliated with Ancestry.com, Myfamily.com, or Rootsweb.com - all of which are under the same corporate umbrella. (I even think Family Tree maker and Genealogy.com come in there too.) They, LDS, do not charge to use their online database. I do think there is a small fee to get microfilm from their library system, but am not sure. Also they have a wide area network of research libraries around the country where ANYONE can research.

One other free source that many find useful is rootsweb's mailing lists. They have them by geographical location, surname, nationality, etc. One or two posts may yield you some great links to whet your appetite.

Lastly for anyone remotely curious about the immigrant experience check out Family History Center at Ellis Island (http://www.ellisislandrecords.org/default.asp). Looking at copies of the ships' passenger lists is fascinating, even if somewhat difficult to decipher the handwriting... Which leads to one last note, of research in the computer age, do NOT search just for what you believe to be the proper spelling of a name. Someone had to decipher all these old records to input the data. Many guessed wrong. The further one goes back the fewer individuals were literate which leads to differences even among the original records. I could go on but I am sure you get the idea. Keep an open mind to start as it may give you a lead you might otherwise miss. http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

BTW on a branch of my family tree I am the sole surviving descendant of my great grandparents. Guess you would call that more of a twig than a branch http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/wink.gif



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[kenja]

My dad uses The Master Genealogist (http://www.whollygenes.com/tmg.htm). He said it takes a little while to learn, but it is a very powerful program.

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[Lucias_Clay]

Thanks for all the help folks I have been to of these sites others I will check out later as I have bookmarked them.Actually the LDS site is

http://www.familysearch.org

I have found some data there. Thanks again you are all great
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