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Randy_tx
03-29-2001, 04:04 PM
XP Requirements

Microsoft Corp.'s Website warns that the second version of the Windows XP beta, just released for $19.95, may require a minimum of 128MB of RAM and a 300MHz Pentium II processor. Budget machines sold more than a year ago may need a memory upgrade if users want the latest version of Redmond's OS. Though the hardware requirements could change before the official version ships, analysts do not expect them to be reduced. Historically, Microsoft has underestimated the requirements of its new systems.

MS will implement a new feature in WXP against piracy. The WPA-scheme links the Windows XP Product Key to the machine ID of the first PC on which its installed. The MS euphemism is "product activation" but really it prevents copying the OS from one machine to another. You now need to activate either via the Internet or via the phone. Ugh.
MS claims that WPA creates a unique ID-code for any first time install. It uses the Product Key you enter at installation time, and some unnamed parts from the hardware you install it on. Now, if you try to install that copy of WXP on another box with the same Product Key, the installation won't work. (It looks a lot like the new Office XP way of product protection).



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Paleo Pete
03-30-2001, 06:10 AM
That sucks...so if your motherboard crashes an burns, takes the CPU or hard drive along with it, for example, and you have to completely rework the system, you can't use the OS you paid for...

I'm all for some sort of piracy prevention measure, but one that prevents migrating to another machine in a situation such as that I don't think is a good idea at all. One that prevents migrating to another machine if you simply want to upgrade I don't agree with...I think it sucks...

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Ghost_Hacker
03-30-2001, 10:36 AM
I don't think it will stop you from upgrading to another machine. I'm sure they'll reissue the license information to you. after you have cough up your name, address, and phone number. They must be after someway to stop the Asian blackmarket for MS software. The way it is now, once you have one product key you can resell the software to anybody and there is nothing MS can do. But if you have to "call in" to activate the software that would stop the one key 1000 copies market. (at least till someone figures out how the key is generated.)

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Randy_tx
03-30-2001, 10:39 AM
I DO recall further down in the article they said you could call them if you have to install a new Mobo and they will issue a new ID....but what a pain in the rumpus.

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mjc
03-30-2001, 11:04 AM
I guess GM, Ford and Chrysler should look into this, look at all the extra money they'd make if you had use their approved oil, spark plugs etc. and then call them and get permission to change them, probably at one of their approved {read: dealer) shops. We wouldn't put up with this kind of behavior from any other product manufacturer.

Here's (http://www.zdnet.com/enterprise/stories/main/0,10228,2702059,00.html) some interesting info.

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Ghost_Hacker
03-30-2001, 11:22 AM
That's one of the major problems with sofware and the main push behind open source.(IMHO)

If you buy a car it's yours period.

If you buy software it still belongs to the software manufacture. You just bought the right to use it. (Same goes for music and other forms of "intellectual property".)


That's my take anyway.

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sea69
03-30-2001, 11:28 AM
like I said.. it may sound somewhat farfetched now, but in the future I can see us not even owning the machines that we use.. we will be all granted licenses in order to use them... terrible bunch of crap this is......and they wonder why there is warez .....

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Paleo Pete
03-31-2001, 08:37 AM
Don't even think about giving GM or Ford any such ideas!

I htink about cars every time I think about the licensing methods of some software, the ones that have the "By opening this opackage you agree to the licensing agreement"...which is inside...would these people buy a car that is locked, and a notice on the window that by opening the door you agree to the warranty and appropriate use policy lying on the seat? I seriously doubt it, but they want us to buy their software ubder those exact terms. And the UCITA will allow it...(see my UCITA post in PC World. And write your congressman.)

As for XP, I don't like the registration methods at all, it seems it would have too many problems. But I digress, I've already stated my opinion.

The reason for this post, I just got a link by email to TechSanity (http://www.techsanityiz.com/TechSanityIz/Articles/Display/0,2594,articleId=1034,00.html) which had a couple of good articles about recently posted topics, one being this one. Nothing about the licensing agreement, but some pretty good info about the pros and cons of XP and the new Mac OS. I thought some of you might like to have a look...

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mjc
03-31-2001, 10:54 AM
Oops, sorry, I hope no PR department people for the auto companies frequent here.... http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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