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Jumby
09-04-2000, 12:18 PM
I am trying to wipe a hard drive that has Linux on it and I can't. I get error messages telling me that I can't format a network drive.

dale
09-04-2000, 12:25 PM
I have run into this problem as well. You will have to either run a low-level IDE format (hopefully your BIOS Setup has an option for such) or you have to boot linux from a floppy and go through a setup and get to the point that you can delete that partition. Norton Utilities or similar disk utility tool *might* have similar options, but haven't used Norton in a long time.

dale

dale
09-05-2000, 11:34 PM
Just an update on this. I had to do this exact thing today and in looking for a low level formatter for my Fujitsu HD, I went to the Fujitsu web site and found their software that manages their harddrive setup and it had an option to clear all partitions, even the linux one that I had. It appears that it would work with any IDE drive, so you might go to their web site and get the free software and try it out.

dale

Charles Kozierok
09-06-2000, 09:38 AM
Almost all IDE drive makers have a similar util for their drives; it's safer to use a util made by the right company (maybe I am just superstitious in this!)
The old format programs they used to put in BIOSes were for older pre-IDE drives mainly.

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der King Mongo
09-07-2000, 08:55 PM
As a followup (for my own benefit), what does "wipe" mean? The problem I've run into in the past is that I needed to use the Linux equivalent of fdisk (the name of which I can't recall) to remove the Linux partition(s). Is it really necessary to do a low-level format?

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Charles Kozierok
09-07-2000, 08:58 PM
I am not sure. "Wipe" usually to me means removing everything from the drive...

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Robert
09-11-2000, 12:38 AM
There's a utility you can download from the web called "delpart".
If you search that keyword, you'll be sure to find it. I found that it
deletes linux, dos, ntfs... just about anything - instantly. Use with care!
It's not reversible.
Robert

Paleo Pete
09-13-2000, 09:50 AM
ixl's post above is correct, low level format is recommended ONLY for pre-IDE drives (MFM/RLL). IDE and SCSI drives are low level formatted at the factory, and it should never be done again. In most cases you'll scrap the drive entirely, since no low level format utility is available that can effectively recreate the tracks and sectors that higher level processes look for. (This info comes straight from the A+ certification training manual I have in my lap.) It can also be found on plenty websites pertaining to hardware issues, and hard drive preparation/management.

In most cases I know of, "wipe" is a term used to refer to formatting or erasing/deleting data.

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Charles Kozierok
09-14-2000, 08:45 PM
Actually, Pete, the "LLF scraps your IDE drive" thing is mostly a myth. There's basically nothing software-wise that a user can do to destroy an IDE drive today, because mfrs have made the drives impossible to LLF. "LLF utils" just zero-fill the drive usually, and remap any bad sectors.
The mfrs continue to call these "LLF utilities" presumably because people keep asking for them, but they really aren't.

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Paleo Pete
09-14-2000, 10:56 PM
Gotta disagree ixl, a true low level format will usually render the drive useless, for the reasons stated in my previous post. Otherwise, it wouldn't be strongly emphasized in every tech study guide I've read, and in info from Seagate and other mfgr's.

You do have a good point though, most of the so-called low level format utilities available now really aren't. But they continue to carry the name, since so many people want to think they're using one. They usually, as you say, just write 0's all over the drive.

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